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   Tim Bray (timbray@cosocial.ca)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:33:05 JST Tim Bray

   I gave up trying to explain to normal people why, when we interchange documents, the names of the files I send back to them never have any spaces in them.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:33:08 JST clacke

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
     @publicvoit @timbray Never used make or texexec on those files I see. =)
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     Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode: (publicvoit@graz.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:33:09 JST Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

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     @timbray I don't get it.

     I avoided spaces and used 7 Bit ASCII myself for many years.

     Since probably a decade, I don't see any issue with spaces. I even started to embrace German Umlaute like äöü or ß without noticing any issue. Even zsh completion is working perfectly fine with those characters. 🤷

     #PIM

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     Jack Baty (jbaty@social.lol)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:26:24 JST Jack Baty

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

     @publicvoit @timbray Regardless of the tooling or how I'll use them, file names with spaces look broken to me and I don't know if I'll ever get over it.

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     Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode: (publicvoit@graz.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:26:25 JST Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

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     • Norm Tovey-Walsh

     @timbray @ndw

     Easy workaround:
     find -print0 | xargs -0

     No issue at my side as well.

     FYI: Local file management is somewhat my passion and fetish since years 😉 https://karl-voit.at/tags/pim/

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     Tim Bray (timbray@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:26:26 JST Tim Bray

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
     • Norm Tovey-Walsh

     @ndw @publicvoit

     find | xargs

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     Norm Tovey-Walsh (ndw@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:26:27 JST Norm Tovey-Walsh

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

     @publicvoit @timbray for $f in *.ext; do something $f | somethingelse > … mother [expletive] space [expletive] you.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:26:36 JST clacke

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     • Edjo
     @Edjo @timbray cash singles?
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     Edjo (edjo@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:26:37 JST Edjo

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     Yes, as I’ve given up on questioning Americans’ contuing use of “checks” (cheques), mag-stripe credit cards and cash “singles” for tipping 😉
     @timbray

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     Edjo (edjo@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 04:08:51 JST Edjo

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     • clacke

     Dollar bills

     @clacke @timbray

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     Edjo (edjo@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 22:44:30 JST Edjo

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     • clacke

     @clacke

     https://www.gocomics.com/rubes/2023/10/06

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     andyc (andyc@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 22:49:55 JST andyc

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
     • Jack Baty

     @jbaty @publicvoit @timbray Make tab complete in bash a pain in the neck. I despise them.

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     Steve Downey (sdowney@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 22:54:04 JST Steve Downey

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
     • Norm Tovey-Walsh

     @publicvoit @timbray @ndw
     Until what you invoke with xargs is shell, and so much of unix is implemented in shell script.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 22:54:04 JST clacke

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     • Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
     • Norm Tovey-Walsh
     • Steve Downey

     @Sdowney Yeah. It's 100% possible to write shell scripts that behave correctly for all file names, but it's a pain in the neck to get it right in every single place when it's just a one-off.

     Also, some tools like ssh have backwards compatibility concerns that force them to behave incorrectly, leading to ridiculous workarounds to make it work.

     @publicvoit @ndw @timbray

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     Attie Grande (attie@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 22:54:06 JST Attie Grande

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     @timbray Do you also prefix it with a date in YYYYMMDD format?

     20230805_the_file.txt

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 09-Oct-2023 10:21:16 JST clacke

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     • b-loved dreamer
     • John Keogh

     @jvk Hyphens and spaces have different meaning. Underscore isn't used in natural English, so it's available to use as a space substitute.

     That's the reason, but in the end people are or course welcome to uses kebab-case, snake_case or CamelCase as they like.

     Or HTML%20case, I suppose. =)

     @mrzool @timbray

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     John Keogh (jvk@mastodon.org.uk)'s status on Monday, 09-Oct-2023 10:21:23 JST John Keogh

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     • b-loved dreamer

     @mrzool @timbray Detox looks useful for Unix/Linux but why replace a space with underline? Hyphens are better - no shift key required. Looks nicer and doesn't remind me of Windows.

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     b-loved dreamer (mrzool@mastodon.online)'s status on Monday, 09-Oct-2023 10:21:24 JST b-loved dreamer

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     @timbray indeed — detox is one of my favorite tools: https://github.com/dharple/detox

     I also use this little script daily, absolutely brilliant:

     https://github.com/thameera/vimv