@nyarlathotep@chjara it's because being branded an internet Nazi is worse than being branded a pedophile. hence the "at least I'm not rude" meme.
Poast, a few sites that are dead and don't federate anymore, and shitposters are blocked more than actual pedos. Really makes you think. Screenshot_20230721-084329~2.png
@chjara It makes me laugh that Misskey has taken off so much in spite of this, meanwhile Pleroma can't escape its dev history
That being said it's still dumb to assume morals from what software is being used, especially when the options are actually super different in presentation and user experience, both in the back and front ends
@nyarlathotep@Pawlicker@noyoushutthefuckupdad@chjara it's hard to measure because many if not most servers don't report their blocks. tbh I only rarely ever find a server anymore where they block us and I really miss the content. I'm not big on growth so it's no big deal to me if we don't get 2800 new users in a month like femboys.horse or whatever
@Moon@Pawlicker@noyoushutthefuckupdad@chjara I find that SPC never used to be blocked (as much) years ago and I could access it from a lot of big Mastodon instances, but these days it seems to be on every list
@limepeep@mint@Pawlicker@nyarlathotep Unless your service has end to end encrypted dms, admins will always be able to read your messages. Even if you do, there's always the possibility that the software has a backdoor enabling them to decrypt them anyway.
@Pawlicker@bae.st@nyarlathotep@tirnanog.space@mint@ryona.agency It's funny that a lot of people are expecting the Fediverse to be more private than the minimum of just not having data trackers. I've even heard some Youtubers condemn this project (I believe it was Mutahar of SOG and Linus of LTT) because "admins can red muh messages." Like geez, the Fedi is a public platform, and it's done enough for you all.
Also, they're called Direct Messages for a reason, not Private Messages.
@nyarlathotep@mint Well it comes from the delusional Tumblr era mindset, fueled by Twitter's (and Big Tech's to an extent) potemkin village of privacy (remember when Ricky Vaughn got party vanned over tweets that hadn't been up for years after he was banned? or how when Twitter unbanned Trump to try to lure him back every single one of his posts was visible after years?)
I heard that when the Twitter files stuff happened, the only thing, and I mean the only thing the lefties gave a shit about was the fact that Twitter can in fact read your DMs. Which to people like us, is something we almost always assume given we've either been on a forum with admins reading PMs or had access to a control panel to do so. But they thought it was truly secure, except it wasn't.
The same mindset is at play with Mastodon and they think that if they can yell at people enough the problem goes away since it worked on Tumblr and Twitter after all.
@Pawlicker@mint Yeah, for some reason people seem to thing Mastodon/fedi is secure and has "privacy" but it is absolutely not -- everything is just different shades of public, and it's foolish to think otherwise. There's literally not even a hassle for admins to access private posts (at least on Pleroma)
It's not secure, but it's also not meant to be either -- it's public social media at the end of the day
@nyarlathotep@mint There's a lot of ways to circumvent it too. I know cum.salon has a way of doing so via proxying stuff.
A theme I think you'll agree with me on is the more you get into the Mastodon sphere of paranoia, the more "privacy through obscurity" increases. I'm talking about shit like scopes that can be MRF'd out, infamously easily leaked "private" messages, shouting down anyone who makes a search engine while Pleroma can act as one (so good compared to hashtags only that BoardReader was leeching off an instance), and whatnot.
@nyarlathotep I know @mint knows more but tldr signed fetch forcing, bad design choices like removing features and breaking mrfs to own "the Chuds", disabling relays by default, and many more
@Pawlicker@mint Aren't signed fetches the things that are essentially useless because you can just open a post on the instance it's from and completely circumvent it with 0 effort?
Unless a better fourth player comes out I will continue to die on a hill for Pleroma, it runs well AND isn't terribly bloated/overdone on the UI side. It Just Werks(tm)