@IsraelDelendaEst there is a small proportion of people who are asexual. But I don't think you can even know that before you are a fully formed adult. And most of all, if you are masturbating because you enjoy sex, but you consider yourself asexual because you haven't experienced sexual attraction, you just haven't found a person who is attractive to you yet. It's very silly to call that asexual.
@IsraelDelendaEst Maybe I'm confused at this point what aseuxal is even supposed to mean. I guess a lack of sexual orientation. I just can't square that with masturbating still lol...
@IsraelDelendaEst If they are furiously masturbating but have no attraction to any other person ever, would that just be an extreme erotic target error? LOL
I think it's mostly people who have unprocessed relationship/sexual trauma and go completely avoidant as a cope. >So why is it labeled as a sexual orientation? You know why.
@chainsaw_appreciator@IsraelDelendaEst Oh, ya, in that case I would defintiely not say it's a sexual orientation. That's the most common type of asexual person I meet, and I don't think anyone considers them truly asexual. Usually after they heal from the trauma they realize they do indeed have a sex drive.
@Piss_Ant@chainsaw_appreciator@IsraelDelendaEst Up until a few years ago, lack of sexual interest was considered a disorder (in the DSM) no matter the cause or lack thereof. Now they’ve amended it to say it’s only a disorder if it’s causing the person distress and that was a result of probably the only example of “asexual activism.” I have varying thoughts about the change.
But as I’ve said here in the past, imagine everything that has been done to the words “lesbian,” “woman,” and even “gender,” combine and multiply that by 100 then make it sure that up until 10 years ago few have ever heard of the word. That’s what has happened to “asexual.”
As for if it’s a sexual orientation or not, I’m unsure why so many hyper focus on that. In response I’d just say, is atheism a religion? The relationship is similar.
@Piss_Ant@IsraelDelendaEst I had one friend who was truly asexual. She had zero interest in sex, did not masturbate and never climaxed. The current iteration probably means "not interested in hookup culture" or is the TIFs way of steering clear of the predatory TIMs in their midst.
@Piss_Ant@IsraelDelendaEst I guess? Idk. The only comment I’ll add here is that many people start masturbating before they develop sexual interest in other people. Make of that what you will lol.
@GalacticTurtle@IsraelDelendaEst That is true. I think my previous arguments are probably incorrect, but I think the term asexual has too many meanings and I am confused now. Maybe I am as dumb as Ethan and Hasan! Lol
@Piss_Ant@IsraelDelendaEst Asexual as a term for human sexual behavior has no meaning because it fell victim to “inclusivity without exception” mentality. Originally it just followed the logic of “if you could be attracted to one sex or both sexes, it is also possible to be attracted to neither.” It’s really not a big leap in my opinion. Personally I have no first hand framework for what physical arousal or attraction to another person feels like. So most people are inclined to think I have a medical problem. And that’s fine so long as I’m not being carted off to some facility lol.
@senryu@Piss_Ant@IsraelDelendaEst I have a friend who is probably asexual. She thinks the idea of sex of any kind is hilarious, has no interest in sexual or romantic relationships, and has never dated. She however does not call herself asexual.
@starsstorm@senryu@Piss_Ant@IsraelDelendaEst See! As a base concept it really isn’t far fetched or entirely unheard of. I just think asexuality got ripped apart by the larger culture surrounding sexual orientation (thus an inclination to assign a word to it) which is how we got to where we are today with it. Some people just aren’t interested leaning toward perplexed.