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   James Gleick (jamesgleick@zirk.us)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:17:28 JST James Gleick

   I see people here asking us to follow them over to #Threads. I don’t understand that. I’m asking people at Threads to follow me over here, where we’re free from ads and algorithms.

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     simsa02 (simsa02@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 07:11:38 JST simsa02

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     @JamesGleick
     For many it's far better to communicate inside one social medium, even a "closed" one, than to deal with the hassle of what can and can not be said on one instance in the #Fediverse or another, blockwars being one result of such "decentralisation".

     To many #Threads may be the right thing to escape the negative effects of #federation.

     That you don't understand why some ask to follow them over to Threads may be due to a lack of technical understanding of federation.

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     simsa02 (simsa02@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 07:40:33 JST simsa02

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     @coupland @JamesGleick
     To follow the rules of "my" instance doesn't mean I can automatically reach people on other instances, esp. when "my" instance blocks the other one. So don't talk nonsense that confuses people who haven't been around here for years.

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     coupland (coupland@cryptodon.lol)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 07:40:34 JST coupland

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     • simsa02

     @simsa02 @JamesGleick Sorry Simsa02 but that's simply untrue. To use the Fediverse you need to follow the rules of your instance. That's it. Just like you need to follow the rules of Reddit to use Reddit or the rules of Facebook to use Facebook. The Fediverse doesn't complicate the matter in any way.

     A user doesn't have to give a flying fuck about the rules on other federated instances, that's between your instance admin and other instance admins to worry about.

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     tinydoctor (tinydoctor@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 11:46:33 JST tinydoctor

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     • simsa02

     @simsa02 @JamesGleick It may be due to a plentiful lack of understanding on my part, but I find Mastadon pretty easy to use, for the purposes for which I use it. I dwell in an ignorance of the details of the fediverse so vast that it protects me from getting mad about the things that are no doubt upsetting about it. It's what I know about Zuckerberg, Meta, and using Instagram and Facebook that will keep me from downloading the Threads app. Won't get zucked again.

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     simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 12:13:45 JST simsa03

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     • tinydoctor
     You're on a rather large instance which "sees" a lot of other instances. Furthermore, it's a Mastodon powered instance, so it runs smoothly with a lot of other mastodon instances provided there is no blockwar due to political differences. But once you get out of the Mastodon silo and try interoperability with other "projects", the hassle, the breakdown, the repudiation of connections, etc., start. There is a reason I call Eugen Rochko the Dear Leader of Mastodon: He created a silo every other project in the Fediverse has to comply to. And it's no coincidence that there are negotiations running between Mastodon developers and Meta for shared access. Rochko tries to become a Musk and Zuckerberg, only with his own version of social media silo. He's not better than they are, only cheaper and with less money. And privacy is chimera in the Fediverse which is why Zuckerberg will get a lot of new user data especially from people (like me) who don't use his platforms -- simply by sharing connections with the Mastodon run part of the Fediverse.
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     tinydoctor (tinydoctor@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 21:19:53 JST tinydoctor

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     • simsa03

     @simsa03 Oh, the disillusionment. Privacy is a chimera anywhere you go, digitally or in real life. Ride the chimera. You can pretend but you can’t escape.

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     simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 09:02:27 JST simsa03

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     • tinydoctor
     Then there is no reason or excuse for you to not download and use Threads. Which looks to me slightly self-defeating. Some chimera we should take dead seriously, others we should laugh at. And it it takes a blessed sage to know which of these is which.
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     tinydoctor (tinydoctor@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 11:37:44 JST tinydoctor

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     • simsa03

     @simsa03 Honestly the only possible reason I can think of for using Threads is if you moved there and signing up was the only way I could stay in contact and continue our conversation. And downloading the app is a high hurdle.

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     tinydoctor (tinydoctor@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 11:44:49 JST tinydoctor

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     • simsa03

     @simsa03 I hate downloading apps. I only download them at last resort. And usually regret it, as I regret downloading the Instagram app.

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     simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 15:30:52 JST simsa03

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     • tinydoctor
     Don't worry. As I don't use FB and Insta, I keep being stuck in the other silos, dreaming their benficial charcater by far exceeds the Zucker's.
     
     I guess one's choice which SM to use comes down to who of their owners or CEOs makes one the least to vomit and cry.