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Hotep 悪い? (bad_banner@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 01:43:53 JST 
Hotep 悪い?
If sodomy is bad, does that mean blowjobs are bad too? -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 01:43:53 JST 
Zealist
@Bad_Banner I DUNNO, i just know, not in the butt, go straight to hell do not pass go. -
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Ulysses (professionalbigot69@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 01:46:39 JST 
Ulysses
@Bad_Banner missionary only, for the sole purpose of procreation, is the Lord's only approved sexual activity -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 01:46:39 JST
Zealist
@professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner the bible is totally supportive of sex for pleasure, within the bounds of marriage. -
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SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:06 JST 
SuperLutheran (kicky half)
@JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner You have a very low view of the material world and normal human experience. Which I get, given the degenerate quality of our age. But this disdain can lead to gnosticism or extreme asceticism.
But it's okay to have fun with one's spouse without going through a bunch of qualifiers and telling yourself "I'm just doing this for love/procreation." There's a great deal of Christian freedom here, and frankly I'm grateful for that. -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:06 JST
Zealist
@SuperLutheran @JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner but of course if you're hte kinda person who can't even get a spouse then you're on this earth to suffer -
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SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:07 JST
SuperLutheran (kicky half)
@JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Answer the question.
Sex during pregnancy fulfills St. Paul's command to come together often, but it is not procreative. Is it sin?
And btw I'll meet you halfway and say I'm against chemical birth control and condoms. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:07 JST 
JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger'
@SuperLutheran @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner New hellthread I guess...
There is a difference between wanting your spouse and just wanting to get off. If you have sex because you love your spouse and coom in your wife it's not a bad thing, if you avoid pregnancy like the plague, and use sex as a means of getting brain chemicals it's something that has obviously been twisted now and is bad. -
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SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:08 JST
SuperLutheran (kicky half)
@JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Are you saying, despite St. Paul's command, that it is sinful for a man to lay with his wife during pregnancy?
If so, I'll take the Word over your logical structures. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:08 JST
JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger'
@SuperLutheran @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner I'm saying using your wife, or her using you like a sex doll isn't love, it's lust and against God's will. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:09 JST
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@SuperLutheran @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner I'm crap at remembering and being able to quote verses in the Bible. God, being perfect does not change, he may take it easy on us but what He despises he always despises, His will does not change.
After being commanded by his father, Judah, to procreate with the late Er's wife Tamar, Onan instead "spilled his seed on the ground whenever he went in" because "the offspring would not be his", and was thus put to death by Yahweh. This act is detailed as retribution for being "displeasing in the sight of Lord".
Jokes aside, either we submit to his will or we don't. Treating his will for us like a buffet table where we pick and choose what we like and 'interpret' away what we don't like is still rejection of him. Sex purely for pleasure or unnatural sex is against his will. -
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SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:09 JST
SuperLutheran (kicky half)
@JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner The passage concerning Onan is a descriptive. Please cite a prescriptive passage that demonstrates what you're claiming is God's will. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:09 JST
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@SuperLutheran @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner No
God designed us to procreate, sex solely for pleasure is fornication, it a twisting a good thing and turning it into lust and is satanic. Satan always twists good things, or inverts them to make them in his image since he cannot create. Loving your wife and cooming in her is good, it leads to making children which is good, and healthy, pulling out, using contraception, unnatural sex that does not lead to having kids, it leads away from that, and is against God's will because that is not how we were designed, we invented those things. I wouldn't think this is an idea that should get pushback. -
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DuckKingLoow (duckkingloow@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:10 JST 
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@Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner I'm pretty sure Corinthians goes on about how sex is needed in a marriage to keep each other from straying. This would obviously be outside of pure reproduction. -
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SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:10 JST
SuperLutheran (kicky half)
@DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Yep, 1 Corinthians 7:3-5
Husband and wife are commanded to enjoy lol -
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Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:05 JST 
Jim
@Consoomer88 @JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Don't tell me what kind of morning it is. 😡 -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:05 JST
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@Nou @Consoomer88 @JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner youtube.com/watch?v=RtnoK-kf3uc -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:06 JST
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@DuckKingLoow @Nou @Consoomer88 @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner I didn't start the thread, I said sex just for pleasure is a sin, and that sex is for making babies. Why are you so mad about me fat fingering my posts or fixing a shitty autocorrect? -
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Consoomer88 (consoomer88@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:06 JST 
Consoomer88
@JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @Nou @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Good morning Sirs -
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DuckKingLoow (duckkingloow@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:07 JST
DuckKingLoow
@JustJohnny @Nou @Consoomer88 @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Waiting until Marriage, being a coomer, having sex with only your wife, being a coomer, are you retarded? Jerking off like a coomer is not waiting until marriage. You are a retard. Hi DnC shill, you have no idea what actual Christianity is, think having sex with your wife is being a coomer, fuck off shill. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:07 JST
JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger'
@DuckKingLoow @Nou @Consoomer88 @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Why are you mad? I'm right.
Think of those couples that HAVE to do weird kinky leather shit to get off, or they cheat and get divorced, because they've had too much sex and made it boring. Those are coomers, that is clearly too far, but the seed of degeneracy was plabted when the excessive sex started, when they started fucking just for fun, or whatever excuse.
And how tf am I a dnc shill? -
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DuckKingLoow (duckkingloow@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:07 JST
DuckKingLoow
@JustJohnny @Nou @Consoomer88 @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner What the f*ck are you talking about? you started this thread saying married couples having sex outside of procreation is a sin. This kink shit is your mental baggage. you are dnc because you are saying any married couple not having sex for pure procreation is indulging in your weird sexual perversions. That edit button let's me look at the previous edits, btw. -
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Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:08 JST
Jim
@JustJohnny @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Not to mention you still haven't demonstrated that sex within marriage for pleasure (allowing for the possibility of conception) is sinful. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:08 JST
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@Nou @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner I don't have to, you have eyes, you can see where lust leads, you can see where being a coomer leads, the question is how far into it coomers go. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:09 JST
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@Nou @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Right on oral sex.
Maybe, maybe not. I think there is some nuance, if a husband and wife's affection leads to sex I don't think that's bad, and if she is already pregnant then they did what they were supposed to do. This I think comes down to intent and excess for me. In the case with oral sex, it's the same sort of intent with fruitless sex--sex just for pleasure and without intent to have kids, no matter where he finishes it's sinful. Same thing with sex just for someone's brain chemicals, you're just using each other. But there is a big difference between a natural progression that leads to sex, and just saying 'I had a bad day, let's fuck.' -
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Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:09 JST
Jim
@JustJohnny @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner You don't think comforting your spouse is one of the duties of married life? -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:09 JST
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@Nou @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner It is, so is not leading her to sin, and there is more than one way of comforting her, and if affection LEADS to sex but it is not just done for pleasure it's fine. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:10 JST
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@Nou @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Good, so what does it matter if you're bonded if you don't have kids? If you do things to prevent conceiving then it's just to fuck, to use each other. Going out of your way to have sex and avoid having kids is against God's will. People can make similar arguments with oral sex, or maybe even anal sex, or with drugs, that something releases chemicals in your brain doesn't make it good, it makes it an apparent good. Having sex to get the chemicals in your brain just makes you an addict, sex because you want your wife and she want's you, and you are at least open to having kids is different, it's how we were made to be. Think about what it means to go against that, against the original design for us, saying "I want to pull out, let my will be done, not thine" that's not a good path. -
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Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:10 JST
Jim
@JustJohnny @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner So... just to be clear, I was not advocating using any form of contraceptive.
I'm probably closer to you on this than I am the rest of the thread. The one slight change I would make to what you've been saying is that the marital act must always be *open* to conception, not that that always has to be your intent. Having sex with your spouse because it's fun, or even just because one of you had a stressful day is completely, as long as you are not proactively trying to prevent conception. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:10 JST
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@Nou @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner I'm saying that's thin ice. If you're unwinding at home and affection turns to sex naturally, and is done to conceive it's fine imho. Deciding you're stressed and just need to fuck, probably not fine. Or you're stressed and want a beej, also not good. Also, actively preventing pregnancy, is also bad. -
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Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:10 JST
Jim
@JustJohnny @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Well, oral sex, to completion, would obviously violate the prerequisite of being open to conception. So that would be a no-go under the paradigm I laid out.
As for the rest, sex only with intent to conceive would rule out sex while the couple knows the wife is pregnant. Which a. an absurd hardline position I've never heard before, and b. a great way to find yourself getting divorced. -
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Consoomer88 (consoomer88@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:11 JST
Consoomer88
@JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner 8 Then Judah said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother."
9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother.
10 And what he did was wicked in the sight of the LORD, and he put him to death also.
Contextually it looks like the problem was that he refused his duty to his brother, tribe, and fathers command.
He wasn’t pulling out because he was using her for pleasure, he was pulling out because he didn’t want to provide a son to his brothers wife -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:11 JST
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@Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner That's certainly part of it, but he was also using her for sex. I mean, he went on multiple occasions, he used her and pulled out, and again, that's not how we were made to be, that's not how God made us. It is not natural for people to do that, if we were just animals this behavior negatively affects birth rates which is against natural law--which God made. It is because of our having a will an intellect that we can do this, and it is not aimed at creating life, but for getting brain chemicals, ergo it's clearly not good. The sex act, yes bonds people to one another and is fun, but it is there to make offspring, using it in ways that prevents that is twisting it into something outside of the original design and intent. -
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Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:11 JST
Jim
@JustJohnny @Consoomer88 @DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner >but it is there to make offspring
Yes. But not solely for that purpose. If God intend it solely for the purpose of reproduction we'd likely see dopamine and probably some serotonin released following orgasm, since those are our body's primary reward chemicals. And while you do see a surge of dopamine, the primary endorphin released is oxytocin suggesting that the bonding aspect of sex is at least as important as the reproductive aspect. -
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DuckKingLoow (duckkingloow@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:12 JST
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@SuperLutheran @JustJohnny @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner EXACTLY. Spin it how ever you want, but no one says it's in the text. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:12 JST
JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger'
@DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner God striking a man down for spilling his seed is reason enough for me to not try to argue for it, cooming is for making babies. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:13 JST
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@SuperLutheran @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Fair point, still, sex just for pleasure is a sin, using your spouse to get off for it's own sake is a sin against God, maybe not on the level of sodomizing a man, but it is contrary to God's plan for marriage. I'm not saying sex is bad, I'm saying overindulging, or doing it for the wrong reasons is bad. -
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DuckKingLoow (duckkingloow@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:13 JST
DuckKingLoow
@JustJohnny @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner 1 Corinthians 7 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”
2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband.
4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. -
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JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger' (justjohnny@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:13 JST
JustJohnny - DM me the word 'nigger'
@DuckKingLoow @SuperLutheran @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Right, and I believe it was understood that this would be fruitful, that it would lead to having children. -
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SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 20:55:13 JST
SuperLutheran (kicky half)
@JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner Where is that in the text though?
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