@JustJohnny @DuckKingLoow @Zealist @professionalbigot69 @Bad_Banner You have a very low view of the material world and normal human experience. Which I get, given the degenerate quality of our age. But this disdain can lead to gnosticism or extreme asceticism.

But it's okay to have fun with one's spouse without going through a bunch of qualifiers and telling yourself "I'm just doing this for love/procreation." There's a great deal of Christian freedom here, and frankly I'm grateful for that.