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WIth Reddit seemingly self-destructing, a lot of people have been wondering if there are alternatives on the Fediverse.
I do NOT recommend Lemmy. I have a serious long-standing deep concerns about the developers which you can see on a thread from 2021 at https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379
As far as I know, nothing has changed since then and Lemmy's issues remain.
There's also Kbin, which seems less problematic, though it does mention a cryptocurrency on its website :/
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Yeah, Reddit suddenly demanded $20 million from a popular third party Reddit app:
https://mastodon.social/@christianselig/110464420566906146
It seems Reddit is trying to destroy third party apps, the same way Twitter did.
KristFist
@feditips wait now Reddit?!
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Guess it depends on the subreddit? :/
stoicmike
@feditips Do you really want to take in the reddit users?
Chris Coleman
@feditips Seems a bit hyperbolic to say Reddit overcharging for API access is “self-destructing.”
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Possibly a bit, yes. Was mainly trying to concisely get across the shock people felt when they saw the API changes happening, in order to fit everything into one toot.
Stemy
@feditips I don't get why it's a problem. The fact that main developers are problematic or not does not remotely impact the moderation policy of the instances and their problematic traits aren't impacting the code itself. Furthermore, bigotry is forbidden in the flagship instance and highlighted instance seems relatively safe.
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" Furthermore, bigotry is forbidden in the flagship instance and highlighted instance seems relatively safe."
Please read the thread I linked.
The flagship instance's stated rules don't match what the instance actually does in reality. I give specific examples.
Having rules and implementing rules are totally different things, as Orwell noted in Animal Farm.
Stemy
@feditips And even so, there are always other instances.
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I don't think tech is neutral.
If developers have a problematic attitude to human rights, I do not feel comfortable recommending their work.
bgt lover
@feditips What's wrong with lemi, like, the code itself? The devs, as you said on that thread, have lots of issues. However, is that a platform's fault? why not, like, just make our own instances or whatever, where that shit isn't allowed anywhere? If twitter would be open source tomorrow and would be implementing activity pub, hell yeah, I'm all for people making instances, though in practice mastodon has the most important features of twitter anyway, so yeah, twitter doesn't accomplish much at this point anyway, open sourced or not.
Kainoa
@feditips@mstdn.social imo the cryptocurrency situation is a non-issue, since it's an optional, disabled-by-default module for cardano tips.
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Yeah, the developer gave me an update about this, I've edited the original post to reflect this and linked to their update.
stux⚡
@feditips Ohhh didn't know about Kbin! 😮 interesting!
Also.... FIRST time i visit the site and boom :blobcatgiggle: i freaking love the fediverse
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Human rights violations are not leftist, they're just plain evil.
heap
@feditips A leftist platform.... platforming leftist ideas. Just join a different instance of Lemmy and stop complaining.
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Human rights violations are terrible whoever does them.
According to Amnesty International, China is systematically repressing muslims, forcing muslims into re-education camps, demolishing mosques etc:
There is no reason to be defending this. It should be condemned wherever it happens.
heap
@feditips I love reading fairy tails and conspiracy theories like anyone else, but I'm not going to read stories about China and the (dead for 30+ years) USSR constructed by religious zealots (Adrian Zenz), extreme nationalists/fash/Nazis from the 1930s, and countries who supported the war in Iraq, the detention of innocent people in (illegally occupied Cuba) Gitmo, and people trying to prop up extremist anti-Muslim regimes like Modi's India and Israel.
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There is no point discussing human rights if you deny violations that have been documented by respected an neutral human rights groups.
heap
@feditips These reports are rumors and allegations. I'd rather put (actual) terrorists in a reeducation center for 9-18 months than point out random (innocent) Muslims for questioning and have Ron DeSantis oversee their torture. China's campaign was effective. Uyghurs are still using their language+religion. Dev. in Xinjiang is excellent, the Uyghurs were allowed multiple children even under the One Child Policy, +their real wages have been going up
Punnamaraju Vinayaka Tejas
@feditips have to disagree. Let's take the Lemmy software and host our own instances where the devs and their bigotry means nothing. Their bigotry is in their moderation, not in the source code.
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The more people use a dev's software, the higher profile the dev becomes. Look at how much power and funding Eugen has because of Mastodon being widely used.
AmnInterThrowAway
As we all know, amnesty international never makes up human rights abuses to push an imperialist agenda
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Reddit suddenly started charging third party apps absolutely ridiculous amounts of money to access the API:
https://mastodon.social/@christianselig/110464420566906146
This has gone down very badly with all the people who depend on those third party apps.
It seems similar to what Musk did with Twitter's API.
AugustusMorning
@feditips reddit is self destructing? How?
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It's what happens with centralised social networks, they eventually start cashing in whatever they control.
It's why decentralisation is so important, to prevent this happening.
AugustusMorning
@feditips it seems like every American based social media company is copying what musk does. Layoffs too.
AugustusMorning
@feditips to prevent corruption from worshipping $$$??
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Just to make it structurally impossible for anyone to impose terms on other people.
On a decentralised network, if one instance misbehaves people can move their accounts to another instance.
On a centralised network, you're forced to just go with whatever the owner decides as there's only one instance on the whole network. That's what Musk is exploiting.
pax
@feditips @devinprater but kbin is probably less accessible with a screenreader.
Neilh90
@feditips thanks for the heads up. I'm kind of new to this. But are other instances ran by other people within lemmy that might be better? For example know a couple of. Domains. One under the name
.world
I thought maybe they are like different mastodon servers?
Sorry if I'm not making much sense
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@RedstoneMenace @mayu @porkroll @bgtlover
I tried to engage with Lemmy's lead dev in private because I assumed that what you say is true. I didn't see any indication that it was true. That was why I went public.
If someone cares deeply about human rights, they should never deny well-documented abuses.
Human rights abuses are not socialism. They are crimes, they are evil. Trying to discuss them as socialism is giving socialism a bad name.
RedstoneMenace
@mayu @porkroll @feditips @bgtlover
You're observing overzealous pushback to narratives bending historical events to bludgeon people opposing US geopolitical interests.
Any discussion with MLs about human rights would reveal they care deeply about them, recognize where socialist projects have failed in that regard, & talk at length on how to avoid those failures.
Libs won't see this because they block whatever doesn't jive with the Washington Post's version of events. Where are my Xi bucks?
Mayu
@porkroll @feditips @bgtlover its common for tankies to correctly list US crimes, but ignore what china or ussr have been doing
im surprised that they, unlike conservatives, seem to have enough brain capacity to process so many lengthy texts and history, and are correct about so many things, yet ignore an issue so obvious.
just as if they were paid by someone to do it
PorkrollPosadist
@feditips @bgtlover One of the main developers is responsible for compiling one of the more comprehensive lists of US human rights violations circulating on the net: https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md He has written many other essays (https://github.com/dessalines/essays), so we don't have to speculate or fill in the blanks.
Melon Usk ❌ 🍈 🍉
@feditips hope it won't be killed by SEC. They just murder every crypto based service
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The Fediverse does not use any kind of cryptocurrency or blockchain.
Stemy
@feditips According to the principal concerned, these are rumors without proof spread by a person who wanted to harm them.
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