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   Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:06:04 JST Xeon²
   > I love SUVs. They are hugely practical and look great
   they're less useful than utes and look like ass, you mean
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     malevolent dictator for life (astrid@fedi.astrid.tech)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:07:21 JST malevolent dictator for life

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     @izaya everyone going "waaa pain at the pump!!" is probably a range rover driver
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     @izaya Wish we had modern utes in the US.
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     purple 👊✊💨 (purple@nya.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:07:34 JST purple 👊✊💨

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     @astrid@fedi.astrid.tech @izaya@social.shadowkat.net imagine having a 17 gallon gas tank and not being able to fill it up with alcohol (E85)
     
     1st thing i looked up with my new (to me) car is how a flex fuel conversion is done. it gets > 30 MPG but that's no excuse to not run a cleaner & more efficient fuel

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     Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:07:42 JST Xeon²

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     > I'm getting tired of these [...] articles effectively calling the [...] SUV owning population dumb
     my guy you bought a hatchback with a bodykit that doubles its fuel consumption
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     malevolent dictator for life (astrid@fedi.astrid.tech)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:09:06 JST malevolent dictator for life

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     @izaya I think you should shut up about oil prices if you drive anything larger than a crossover
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     Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:09:52 JST Xeon²

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     @astrid I think anyone with a crossover or larger vehicle (for personal use) should be barred from buying fuel
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     Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:10:29 JST Xeon²

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     @purple @astrid > 80L
     :blobcatsweat: you're telling me vehicles that need a fuel tank that big can't run on E10 from the factory?
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     Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:10:31 JST Xeon²

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     @astrid my fuel cost has doubled! it's gone from $10/mo to $20/mo!
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     sam :verified_woem: (starshine@woem.space)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:11:18 JST sam :verified_woem:

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     @izaya @astrid $10 worth of fuel here gets you like. 30 kilometers if you’re lucky

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     vala — now in technicolor (vala@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:26:41 JST vala — now in technicolor

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     @izaya > articles effectively calling the suv owning population dumb
     
     i like to call a spade for a spade though :/
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     malevolent dictator for life (astrid@fedi.astrid.tech)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:26:42 JST malevolent dictator for life

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     @izaya there's no reason for anyone to own a SUV besides as a symbol of how rich you are. Maybe some people actually need the pickup truck, but that's like, contractors and farmers and maybe the occasional person renting a U-Haul, so ownership should be gated behind a commercial driver's license
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     malevolent dictator for life (astrid@fedi.astrid.tech)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:27:36 JST malevolent dictator for life

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     @izaya also, sedans can hold so much shit. I moved like 20 pretty big boxes to my new place in a sedan, and one trip I brought 12 of those boxes. With a roof carrier, I probably could have brought all of them at once and still eaten less fuel than an average truck
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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:27:37 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @astrid @izaya And even today's pickup trucks in the US are becoming impractical for that. A lot of construction companies seek out older trucks because they aren't jacked up and unnecessarily large.
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     Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:28:04 JST Xeon²

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     @Bam @astrid so they want to look rich rather than getting a safer and more practical vehicle, gotcha
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     Bam (bam@sfba.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:28:05 JST Bam

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     @astrid @izaya I always saw them among people who have multiple kids but don’t want to buy a station wagon or mini van. 🤷♂️

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     Bam (bam@sfba.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:28:20 JST Bam

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     @izaya @astrid Vanity is a hell of a consumer purchasing device.

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     malevolent dictator for life (astrid@fedi.astrid.tech)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 08:37:42 JST malevolent dictator for life

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     @tk @izaya ah yes, the high clearance vehicles. You're clearly not a person who lifts lots of construction materials if your truck bed is 3ft off the ground
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     Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:06:38 JST Xeon²

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     @dimi @tk @astrid hi I also live in rural NSW and have since before everyone drove humvees
     
     when I was a kid my best friend's mum lived 15km down a dirt track criss-crossed by multiple creeks. she drove a minivan.
     
     when we went camping our anemic 80s hilux had no problem with a caravan. it had a smaller engine than most modern hatchbacks.
     
     dirt roads are a nonissue for any decent car, you just have to be a competent driver. people will happily outdo me in a beat-up 90s toyota corolla while I'm riding shitty roads on my XT250
     
     the only people that drive SUVs are those that have moved out here from sydney or melbourne, everyone else drives sedans or, if they need them for work or similar, smaller utes
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     𝕯𝖎𝖒𝖎 (dimi@techforgood.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:06:39 JST 𝕯𝖎𝖒𝖎

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     @tk @astrid @izaya Don't judge too fast 😂

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     𝕯𝖎𝖒𝖎 (dimi@techforgood.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:06:40 JST 𝕯𝖎𝖒𝖎

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     @tk @astrid @izaya In Australia, you see a lot of SUV and utes on the road. If you want to go camping (one of the favorite activities during the holidays) or visit family in rural areas, there is not much options. Pulling a caravan with a small car above the blue mountains is simply impossible...

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     𝕯𝖎𝖒𝖎 (dimi@techforgood.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:06:42 JST 𝕯𝖎𝖒𝖎

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     @tk @astrid @izaya Hello! I own an SUV and a Ute (pickup truck). The SUV is a 7 seater, which is important to bring my family around. The ute is used mainly to bring construction, dirt and wood at my home.
     We live in rural NSW, and other cars can't go through the dirt roads and rivers we sometimes have to cross. The nearest hospital is impossible to access if its heavily raining and all you have is a car (or a city SUV).

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     malevolent dictator for life (astrid@fedi.astrid.tech)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:07:31 JST malevolent dictator for life

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     @dimi @tk @izaya sure, off roading is like the only real use for high clearance, but I guarantee you that most of the SUVs in suburbs and cities aren't going offroading more than once a year, if ever at all. It certainly is that way in America.
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     Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:08:04 JST Xeon²

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     @purple oh okay you meant full on brazil-style "this vehicle runs on ethanol"
     
     I'd love to get a bike designed for E100, or a conversion kit.
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     purple 👊✊💨 (purple@nya.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:08:06 JST purple 👊✊💨

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     @izaya@social.shadowkat.net overhwelmingly annoying is "Unleaded 88" which is a branding fuckup to high heaven imo
     
     it's E20. that's all it is. just say that. don't confuse us with nonstandard terminology 💢
     
     anyway i try to mix my gas in the new Honda to about 20% to 30% ethanol. it doesn't trip the ECU and i still get fantastic mpg

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     purple 👊✊💨 (purple@nya.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:08:07 JST purple 👊✊💨

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     @izaya@social.shadowkat.net yes almost all gas-fueled engines will take E10.
     
     but, some definitions are needed because we use the same words to mean different shit over here.
     
     Ewhatever = whatever% is ethanol/MTBE, at most.
     
     for example:
     E10 = at most, this fuel is 10% bourbon
     E30 = at most, this fuel is 30% tequila
     E85 = at most, this fuel is 85% corn whiskey
     
     E10 is almost never labeled "E10" at the pump, instead we have a variety of shit that is E10. it's annoying. it's so annoying our regulating agency has a site explaining it: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/gasoline/octane-in-depth.php (yep we can pick our octane ratings at the pump)
     
     there's a trick to not being able to read, though. if the pump's hose is black it's E10/Unleaded of some sort, green is diesel, yellow is flex fuel. this isn't a standard but it's damn common.
     
     my favorite gas station has REC90 fuel which is 90 octane gasoline and 0% ethanol, the CBR250R fking LOVES it

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     Bam (bam@sfba.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:08:25 JST Bam

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     @astrid @izaya Sure. But they don’t look “cool mom/dad” so 🤷♂️

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     Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:08:25 JST Xeon²

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     @Bam @astrid do they honestly think the karen car is cool
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     malevolent dictator for life (astrid@fedi.astrid.tech)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 09:08:27 JST malevolent dictator for life

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     @Bam @izaya but stationwagons and minivans eat less fuel, are not so high off the ground that you'll decapitate some kid or low clearance car because you didn't see them, and usually hold as much if not more stuff than SUVs because they're just rectangles, while SUV interiors are curvier
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     @Bam @izaya @astrid Pretty much the only reason why minivans and wagons aren't more popular in the US is image.
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     Stampeding Longhorn :budgie: (stampedinglonghorn@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 20:27:00 JST Stampeding Longhorn :budgie:

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     @tk @astrid @izaya I think it's weird that the trucks are getting larger, but the bed sizes are getting smaller, and they are becoming less practical.

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     Stampeding Longhorn :budgie: (stampedinglonghorn@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 21:53:57 JST Stampeding Longhorn :budgie:

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     @dimi @astrid @tk @izaya lol, a Texas Exit is where you exit from the Interstate onto the frontage road but thru the grass and dirt instead of a designated exit.

     It's helpful when the Interstate is stopped with traffic, you missed your exit, or they didn't put in an exit in the right spot.

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     𝕯𝖎𝖒𝖎 (dimi@techforgood.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 21:53:59 JST 𝕯𝖎𝖒𝖎

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     @StampedingLonghorn @astrid @tk @izaya I am sorry, my only knowledge of Texas is coming from far west movies. As far as I know, you don't have cars and only ride horses to the nearest saloon.

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     @astrid @tk @izaya @dimi The only time I go off road is on the Interstate. If you live in Texas, you'll know that I'm referring to a Texas Exit.