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   GalacticTurtle (galacticturtle@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2023 23:39:00 JST GalacticTurtle
   A woman with a medical condition is not a man.
   Racism does not make a black woman male.
   
   I'll never understand why claims of the contrary are the primary justifications for all this nonsense.
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     GalacticTurtle (galacticturtle@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2023 23:38:58 JST GalacticTurtle

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     • Cousin_Martha_Corey
     @FeartnTired @Cousin_Isobel Mhm. What frustrates me the most is that, just like men are seen as the default human, white men are seen as the default men. So there is this overall thought that feminism is centering on how women around the globe are to deal with white men... when the truth is that I'd say the majority of women on the planet rarely deal with white men at all. I live in a country where there are white men everywhere yet I'm a bit nervous about an interview I have today cause I'm about to sit in front of a panel of six of them and that is a highly unusual interaction for me. For me, black men are the default men because those are the ones that have had the biggest face to face impact on my life and those men are the reason why I had any feminist ideas to begin with.
     Seahorses are horses likes this.
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     Cousin_Martha_Corey (cousin_isobel@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2023 23:38:59 JST Cousin_Martha_Corey

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     @GalacticTurtle Right. I mean, honestly, I’ve had a young black woman scream at the mixed-race group of feminists I was with that “white feminism” was dead. She was with a mixed-race group, too. Her group was just younger and had colorfully-dyed hair.

     They have some kind of whole philosophy going on. I’ve been out of college so long I missed it, but somehow, they managed to weave white supremacy together with the fact that sex exists, so it’s all one thing to oppose together. I think the premise has something to do with black women being made to do hard work, alongside men, while the idea of women needing something special was only for white women. It doesn’t make sense because rape was actually a huge problem, with white men being allowed to rape black women and girls with impunity in slave days and beyond. Black girls needed more protection than white girls without the law on their side. Now, supposedly, the “anti-racist” thing to do is to let men into the restrooms and locker rooms with women and girls. I don’t get it.

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     GalacticTurtle (galacticturtle@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2023 23:38:59 JST GalacticTurtle

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     • Cousin_Martha_Corey
     @Cousin_Isobel Yup. That's exactly what they're going for. What many young (and even some old) black women seem to not get is that regardless of the lives of black and white women looking very different if we're talking about American history in general, is that a woman going through hell does not make them male.
     
     From various viewpoints it's like the issue of race in America in particular makes women less able to see all the ways patriarchy morphs their lives. Amongst black women you've got some who make their whole personality about partnering with white men who they view will see them as human and treat them better than black men. Then you've got the type of black women who absolve black men of everything under the sun because all their faults are due to being seen as beneath white men. Even a white friend of mine goes on and on about how she's done with straight men! Instead she's only going to date "queer men and non-men." Ah yes, because there's such a huge difference when a man declares he's a plural.
     
     I can lay out the oppression of women by men while also acknowledging that there are white women (and women of other races too) out there who want little to nothing to do with me because I'm black. That's not going to make me want to flock back and tether myself to my original captors. I'm perfectly capable of tackling multiple issues at once lol.
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     Cousin_Martha_Corey (cousin_isobel@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2023 23:38:59 JST Cousin_Martha_Corey

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     @GalacticTurtle Wow, there’s a lot here, but what I had no idea about was this:

     Amongst black women you’ve got some who make their whole personality about partnering with white men who they view will see them as human and treat them better than black men.

     Is this because white men are sometimes less macho (maybe – that stereotypical, “progressive” type of white man, anyway)?

     I wish your white friend the best with her “queer men and non-men.” 😅 I don’t know if these “non-men” are women, but it kind of sounds like she’s sick of men and doesn’t want to give up hope that there’s a different type out there.

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     Feart n Tired ??????? (feartntired@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2023 23:38:59 JST Feart n Tired ???????

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     • Cousin_Martha_Corey
     @Cousin_Isobel @GalacticTurtle it'll be the enby men. the ones with the eyeliner and ugly haircuts.
     
     I think misogyny within ethnic minorities is a horrible subject. the desire to not be racist has resulted in authorities here turning a blind eye to terrible things. same with child abuse. and the idea that a minority community will deal with their own leaves women hung out to dry. But the fact that the racism line runs right through the centre and individual cases criss-cross one side to the other, it's a bloody minefield.
     Seahorses are horses repeated this.
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     Cousin_Martha_Corey (cousin_isobel@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2023 23:39:00 JST Cousin_Martha_Corey

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     @GalacticTurtle They want to divide us.

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     GalacticTurtle (galacticturtle@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 04-May-2023 23:39:00 JST GalacticTurtle

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     • Cousin_Martha_Corey
     @Cousin_Isobel With such beyond childishly absurd statements that full on doctors repeat. 🙃