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   Phil (amnysphere@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Apr-2023 02:50:15 JST Phil

   Aliens invade: "EARTHLINGS, WE HAVE KILLED YOUR LEADERS, DESTROYED YOUR ECONOMY, AND ARE HERE TO TAKE OVER YOUR GOVERNMENT"

   Humans: "oh thank fucking god"

   Aliens: "wait what?"

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     Manu (yakkafo@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Apr-2023 22:11:08 JST Manu

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     @amnysphere reminds me this one ?

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     Abbie (antijingoist@hackers.town)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 02:25:31 JST Abbie

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     @amnysphere @rgegriff
     “In exchange for alien tech we provide you with the wealthy? Okay!”

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     GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺 (eetschrijver@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 02:25:32 JST GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺

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     @amnysphere This is so funny it hurts.

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 13:29:25 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • Feoh
     • BlueDotAZ

     @feoh

     Not a Marxist, but I think Northern European "socialism" has shown itself to produce the most happiness for the most people, IFF the culture values collectivism.

     @cujobyte

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     Feoh (feoh@oldbytes.space)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 13:29:26 JST Feoh

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     • BlueDotAZ

     @cujobyte It's pretty disgusting. The myth that you can work until a "reaosnable" age and then retire to enjoy the fruits of your labor is showing itself to be provably false for way too many people. I'd say #fuckcapitalism but I don't have any faith that #Communism or #Anarchy or anything else would be any better. ?

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     BlueDotAZ (cujobyte@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 13:29:28 JST BlueDotAZ

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     Anyone else pissed that they want to raise the retirement age at the same time the average lifespan of Americans is falling? We now live an average of 76 years and they want us to retire at 70. So yeah, thanks, I worked for effing 50 years, put in my money every week to the system, and I get a whopping six years back. Go screw. #fascism #retire #socialsecurity

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     Pete / Syllopsium (syllopsium@peoplemaking.games)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 13:48:25 JST Pete / Syllopsium

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     • BlueDotAZ

     @cujobyte That's not the way the statistics work. The average age may be 76, but that includes everyone including those who die younger than retirement age.

     Looking at UK stats (OK, different, but our average lifespan has gone down too), a man born in 1951 has an average lifespan of 66 years and until relatively recently the old age pension kicked in at age 65 for men (it's now slowly increasing).

     However, if a man born in 1946 reached 65 in 2011 (matching the latest available data) they could expect to live another 18 years on average.

     Which isn't to say that the increasing retirement age doesn't suck, but you can expect to live more than 6 years, and it all has to be funded somehow.

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     Deadly Headshot (dheadshot@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 13:48:26 JST Deadly Headshot

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     • Pete / Syllopsium

     @cujobyte
     Unfortunately, under the current system, pensions are funded retroactively (?) by the next generation, so a falling birthrate means the bottom falls out of the system and there's no money to pay for the elderly anymore (hence why they increase retirement age to offset it). It's not a good system, obviously, but it's easier to manage than the alternative...
     @syllopsium

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     BlueDotAZ (cujobyte@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 13:48:27 JST BlueDotAZ

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     • Pete / Syllopsium

     @syllopsium It is funded by my direct payments from every single check I have received since I started working at the age of 14. That is true of every single one of us. So the paying for it part has been done. It's the collecting it back part that they seem to have issue with. The fact that they have raped it for their own purposes doesn't mean I should have to wait x more years to collect my own money. We can come up with trillions for the military budget which means they can fund SS.

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     BlueDotAZ (cujobyte@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 13:48:28 JST BlueDotAZ

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     • Pete / Syllopsium

     @dheadshot @syllopsium I have heard that argument, but is it really true? If you look at the generational breakdown, it is fairly consistent. I’m not by any means a statistician, but it seems that the Boomers are currently retiring and have been for a while. GenX has borne the brunt of them. Millennials outnumber GenX by quite a bit. I see maybe GenZ may have a hard time, but no different than GenX vis-à-vis Boomers. What am I missing here?

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     valhalla (valhalla@social.gl-como.it)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 14:27:14 JST valhalla

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     • Pete / Syllopsium
     @cujobyte @dheadshot @syllopsium Younger generations who are working are also getting paid less than their parents and grandparents (adjusted for inflation), and since the money is proportional to what people are being paid for their work, there is still less available for the elders.
     
     Yes, a bit of wealth redistribution would help.
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     Pete / Syllopsium (syllopsium@peoplemaking.games)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 21:02:33 JST Pete / Syllopsium

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     • BlueDotAZ

     @clacke @cujobyte Improved health care and living conditions within a person's lifetime can substantially improve their life expectancy if they survive that long.

     At day one a UK 1940s baby boy has around 66 years of expected lifespan on average, but that's not uniform throughout their lifespan. Death is more probable as an infant, in early childhood, later teenage years, or (for women) in childbirth. Your personal expectancy will go up over time because you've reached a particular age, assuming no notable chronic health conditions.

     So, no, they absolutely do not 'get six years'.

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