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   Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 00:54:55 JST Alex Gleason

   “Guys copyright law is fine, in fact necessary. It protects small artists! Piracy is wrong.”

   Copyright law:

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     Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:01:40 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️

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     • MattZ
     @colinsmatt11 @alex IANAL, but from my understanding, plant genetics are copyrighted, not patented.
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     MattZ (colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:01:40 JST MattZ

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     • Caek Islove ? ❤️
     @caekislove @alex You can't copyright genetics because they don't qualify as WORK, and only WORK can be copyrighted.
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     MattZ (colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:01:41 JST MattZ

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     @alex Being pedantic but that's patents.
     
     Btw you know about my views on "IP"
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     Nina Paley (nina@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:04:09 JST Nina Paley

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     Is that copyright, or patent? Either way it's IP, and evil.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:04:09 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Nina Paley
     The suit was for patent infringement, and it was withdrawn, but ip law isn’t evil lol. Biological patents shouldn’t be a thing though.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:07:48 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Hoss Delgado
     Let’s say you own a huge distribution company and I make a really good song everyone likes. Should you be allowed to sell my music without paying me anything?
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:07:49 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Copyright is fucking cancer and if I was in charge I would immediately abolish it. People have fought me over this before but it's a stance I will hold until the end of time.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:12:42 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     I don't care.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:12:42 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Hoss Delgado
     Ok, I win.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:13:06 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:
     • Hoss Delgado
     Shut up pedo.
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     applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2: (applejack@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:13:07 JST applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     • Hoss Delgado

     @bot @alex @Hoss Yes. Copying data takes nothing away from anybody, nobody is harmed. There is no "right" to hypothetical profits. Fining or jailing people for copying data is actual violence

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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:13:30 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Hoss Delgado
     It was and you lost.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 01:13:31 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     This wasn't a debate.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 06:47:10 JST 翠星石

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     @alex >Piracy is wrong.
     Theft and murder etc with the help of a boat is wrong, yes.
     
     If you really mean unauthorized copying, sharing is good and not wrong.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 06:47:32 JST 翠星石

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     • Nina Paley
     @nina https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html
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     HSTG (hstg@freeatlantis.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 07:00:05 JST HSTG

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     • applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:
     • Hoss Delgado

     @applejack
     Here's a good one!

     "Supreme Court hands Monsanto victory over farmers on GMO seed patents, ability to sue "

     "The biotech leviathan has filed over 140 lawsuits against farmers for planting the company’s genetically-engineered seeds without permission, while settling around 700 other cases without suing. "

     https://www.rt.com/usa/monsanto-patents-sue-farmers-547/

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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 07:03:11 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:
     • HSTG
     • Hoss Delgado
     GMO food is for fats anyway.
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     GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 12:49:34 JST GNU Too

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     • 翠星石
     • Fediverse Contractor
     @bot @HSTG @Suiseiseki @Hoss @applejack @nina @colinsmatt11 @caekislove @alex i don't know dude. Sometimes the Kings' men just have to go.
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     Dramamine (dramamine@rdrama.cc)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2023 15:36:09 JST Dramamine

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     @alex One of the reasons I can always sympathize with the free software people is how retarded a lot of copyright laws become when they get awkwardly shoved into biology. It might have made some sort of sense when identifying genes took a large amount of research, enzymes, and hoping restriction enzyme sites existed around the bits of DNA that mattered, but there's something fundamentally retarded about being able to "own" genes that have existed for hundreds of millions of years because you copied it to a plasmid and rang up the patent office first or you bombarded some genes with a mutagen until it did something different and claimed it's somehow "your invention".
     I have very little hope for politics, but I will vote for literally anyone that will promise to trust bust food monopolies and unfuck IP laws about biology.
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