Notices by Amikke (amikke@qoto.org)

@technolyze damn, I didn't get the memo that if I support the technology I also have to be an idiot giving everything away to random tech CEOs. Was it passed along with the memo that all open source models and all AI companies other than the big bad ones suddenly disappeared overnight and are impossible to bring back?

@icedquinn

@icedquinn all automation of work is a major benefit to society. If anyone manages to actually monopolise this automation then the consequences outweigh the positive effect of automation, but in the case of the original luddites this didn't happen and now an average person can have more than like 3 outfits total thanks to industrialised production of textiles. It's not looking like this time it's gonna go differently. But either way, luddites are the "muh jobs" people, not those rightfully worried about over-centralisation.

@icedquinn of course anyone wanting to use automation to centralise control will try to equate people against the former with people against the latter, as it makes them look ridiculous. Doesn't change the fact that in both cases the luddite movement is founded by workers whose jobs are getting automated crying that the entirety of society will benefit at the cost of them having to find a different job.

I've just realised two things:
1. AI luddites are essentially vegans in both reasoning and attitude to life.
2. I've seen *much* less vegan evangelism since the anti-AI evangelism started.

Are they just the exact same people happy they can be mad about something else? Is the Venn diagram of vegans and AI luddites just a circle?

@icedquinn I think I am, I've seen the term "AI luddites" used many times and it describes them very well.

Browser / fedi extension idea:
ability to mark clown posts. A clown post would display with a clown wig and nose on the avatar, helping with both immediate mood and future identification at a glance.

Idea inspired by this week's "how dare this objectively good for open source community project support this other objectively good for open source community project whose author I just called a nazi because I don't like some of his views" situation.

@BrodieOnLinux actually if they manage to configure it to help students along with problems and explain things they didn't understand instead of just giving the answer, it would be an invaluable teaching tool. Essentially a personal tutor. The realist in me knows how government programs related to education usually end though.

Why fix a race condition when you can mark it as "*as-designed", which immediately locks the conversation to collaborators?

https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/87927#issuecomment-571103837

#microsoft #vscode #github

OK, now we know how the AI apocalypse will happen. Not because they're inherently evil, or because we're mean to them, but because after ingesting the Internet they've gained the societal and economical understanding of an average Twitter user and just want to help.

@icedquinn what did you use previously, ceramic? I had a similar experience switching from ceramic to gas (moving apartaments), suddenly things heat up hella fast.

@freemo this kind of "my vote doesn't matter" logic is a fallacy. It's not the diff votes that made a candidate win, it's also all the other votes that brought them high enough to be those diff votes. Your vote can be considered the first vote, the exact first tie-break vote, the last no longer important vote, it doesn't matter, they aren't in order, what matters is that it was one of the votes that made a candidate win or the ones that made a candidate lose less.

"My vote doesn't matter" defeatism is how elections are lost.

@icedquinn I respect it, Dune's Shields are pretty much one of the only sci-fi shields that make sense - stop dangerous (fast-moving) things, but still allow you to grab things and breathe air.

The lasers thing is a bit of a stretch though lol

@icedquinn sounds like a nightmare, I'd never be able to sleep knowing I probably left my joystick for the night two degrees rear-left.

@icedquinn btw, why would you want that? Genuinely interested.

@icedquinn implying that addictive features don't actively hinder the children's willingness to spend time with their parents instead of being farmed on facebook 20 hours a day. Sure, you can force them to do stuff, but they have free will and generally don't react to being forced to do something by loving it.

@Hyolobrika @icedquinn "crying about conspiracy theories" for a start. Combined with "they don't care about the fake ones" suggests that every conspiracy theory publicly opposed is true, which is ridiculous.

@icedquinn not really tho, there's a lot of conspiracy theories that are both extremely unlikely to be true and harmful enough to be fought against. Off the top of my head because it's a bit of my pet peeve, the holokaust deniers are one of the most retarded conspiracy movements I've seen, and obviously they're being fought because never forgetting what people are capable of doing to other people in a totalitarian enough setting is most of its historical value, not Jewish oppression olympics.

@icedquinn 100 conspiracy theories are created, 50 conspiracy theories are propagated as surely true, 2 of them end up being true, "look guys we were right all along, conspiraciez r realz", the rest is either disproved enough to change the narrative to "uhh we didn't actually believe in them, they were planted by the feds to make us seem insane" or get covered up in embarrassment, or it's not and each stays propagated as surely true until it too collapses into true or disproven enough.

It's like with the Alex Jones was right meme, it's funny but it obviously works on a broken clock basis.

It's unfortunate that the #1 international language ended up being English. With its complete pronunciation anarchy it's impossible to tell someone over writing how to pronounce something, or in some cases even describe a sound, without digging up example words. And even that isn't foolproof since they fail at consistently pronouncing their own language and the same written word can have completely different pronunciation depending on accent.

Every single other European language I know of would be better. Yes, even French, they write 4x what they read, but at least they do it fairly consistently. No "ghoti" situations. No cases where an adult sees a written word and isn't sure how to pronounce it.

In some better timeline the US ended up speaking Spanish and a whole class of worldwide communication problems was avoided.

@icedquinn @frogzone you underestimate how dumb people can get when presented with an opportunity to jump on a hate bandwagon for a popular thing. There's surely some industry-sponsored actors helping them along with sponsored research and the like, but I'd say 95%+ of it is completely organic, nobody even had to tell them to be mad, they were mad by default.

Also I'm not sure helping an entire country of people retain sovereignty, ensuring its, and Finland's alignment, turning the Baltic into a NATO lake, testing out newer weapons and exposing Russia as a paper tiger could be considered a "wasted war", it seems to me like the best thing the US spent tax dollars since the actual moon landings. Usually they just go into helping lobbying monopolists along lol