Notices by Ekaitz Zarraga 👹 (ekaitz_zarraga@mastodon.social), page 2

@cnx Take my work in Mes now as an example. I have like more than a hundred of commits. I basically rewrite almost every corner of the evaluator.

Should I fake the process and make all of them pass the tests if doing that is going to "forget" the actual struggle and its implications?

Should I add a changelog style commit message that basically lists hundreds of functions?

Rebasing and preparing everything will surely break things, as conflict resolution is not magic... IDK

cc @janneke

@cnx I'm not sure if that's really incompatible with socially large projects.
Where's the issue, really?
I think most of the trouble here is some projects want all the commits to run and pass tests (why?) and to be perfect. Perfection is impossible, so that requires overwriting commits, specially during iterative steps... I don't like that. I also don't love squashing branches to just one commit.

@woo @janneke Yes.

@woo Contributing to something unethical is unethical. Hitting your wife or your kids was the way things were done in the past, that doesn't mean it was ethical then and it isn't now. It has never been.

I don't think though we have to be very picky or strict with the past. I have written proprietary software and done all sort of unethical things. I just try to do better.

I don't think we should fall in the "it was normal back then" trap either.

Idk

I have my electronics workshop mostly set up thanks to nice people and years of slowly buying things I didn't need at the time.

Also thanks to second hand equipment. The best kind of equipment.

Thanks to everyone that contributed.

@janneke so you don't like emacs then! haha!

@janneke I don't enjoy the cords much. How does that feel to you now after the years? Did you learn to enjoy it?

Also I don't think I love the kind of integration emacs encourages... I think I'm more into having small separate tools than one big thing.

Guile-emacs is very interesting to me but Guile is also huge so I don't think that's better in the size metric.

I just want a simple thing I can write myself. Maybe something without plugins: just change the code.

I cloned emacs and it's 700MB and has thousands of files.

Not really interested.

Also, moving away from NeoVim slowly for the very same reason. I just need to write an editor myself.

@janneke I am also very skeptical about the concept "Software engineer". For the USAmericans "engineer" is a position in a job, not a set of studies, knowledge, mindset and so on. That distorts things a lot.

In my language (spanish) engineer is "ingeniero" which comes from "ingenio" (wit), not from "engine" like in english... That might explain our difference on thought and approach.

RE: https://vis.social/@infobeautiful/116414251287581068

What is the rich europe now??

Back to #live #programming in #C for #GNU #Mes

https://twitch.tv/ekaitzza

And discussing interpreters and other things I'm struggling with...

@anthk @janneke Okay I read the implementation, and it's very elegant, well written and the book looks very interesting.

On the other hand, it does NOT solve the issue I was sharing!
It does not support top-level continuations like guile does.

Look:

;; TL.scm
(define cc 0)
(display (+ 1 2 3 (call-with-current-continuation
(lambda (k)
(set! cc k)
3))))
(cc 10)

$ ./s9 TL.scm
916$

@anthk @janneke I'm not sure if that's going to give me the information i'm missing.

[VIDEO] Question about how to drive a scheme interpreter that acts like #Guile.

This all comes in the context of #GNU #Mes, where I rewrote the core to make it become a bytecode interpreter and I have a few questions on how evaluation should happen and how it relates to macro expansion.

https://cdn.elenq.tech/Scheme_Driver.webm

Please, #scheme people, throw your ideas at my face, send me emails, meet me or anything. This I'd like to learn.

Also, let me know if you need further explanations.

https://fireborn.mataroa.blog/blog/the-slow-death-of-the-power-user/

back to live streaming while programming in #Mes #scheme #interpreter

https://twitch.tv/ekaitzza

Let's do some more #live #programming in GNU Mes #scheme #interpreter

https://twitch.tv/ekaitzza

In 10 minutes.

okay so today streaming from the #studio
GNU Mes internals, #scheme , #continuations and #macros
Hopefully improving performance... while also making everything reasonable to certain degree.

https://twitch.tv/ekaitzza

@cwebber @janneke @shepherd We'll see, I'd expect GOOPS to have many dependencies in Guile's standard library and maybe some internals... It's probably hard to implement.

But as always, with funding and will everything can be done. Sometimes even without the funding :)

@janneke @cwebber @shepherd should we implement GOOPS in Mes? 😈