Notices by muxelplexer (muxelplexer@larkspur.one)

@lanodan @famfo @fossdd i can get that sentinment - it probably feels natural to me since that was how our networking prof got us to layer the networking (coming from a infra/administration background). Ignoring Layer 2 is just not possible when you operate with non-multi-layer switches (i.e. good ol switches)

@lanodan @famfo @fossdd also on a side note: wasn’t it technically the DARPA networking model instead of TCP/IP or do i have brainworms?

@lanodan @famfo @fossdd

Except there’s no such thing as layer 1/2/…/5/6 on TCP/IP. Yeah - they aren’t numbered. There is still Link/Internet/Transport/Application Layers though. Call them what you want but imo that’s a bit pedantic lol.

Yes - but that only applies from the Transport layer upwards - as it does with OSI. In OSI we just ignore Session/Presentation since they are obsoleted. Once you go downwards you have abstracted a physical electrical connection together with a link-layer MAC connection - which is not beneficial when working on those lower layers.

PPPoE is encapsulation of Layer 2 frames in Layer 3 packets in OSI terms, which is nothing too mind bending.

((sorry if i come off as a bit annoyed but OSI layer model is more than just a reference for programmers and i may have PTSD on the layer systems from Networking classes :p ))

@lanodan @famfo @fossdd generally you can just use either and make the best of both worlds by acknowledging the OSI split between physical/link and the TCP/IP amalgation of application layer - but in terms of naming the layers imo OSI is superior

@kaia Pizza Owners be like: “HUSH - CAN’T YOU SEE I’M TRYING TO SELL COCAINE?!” :p

@lanodan the plan’s inside of my walls - just like MINIX’s inside of my silicon

love how the CIA could neither confirm not deny their interest in Plan9.

what are they hiding from us???!!!! /s

https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/foia-cia-plan-9-from-bell-labs-82547/

@puniko meteoswiss :neofox_hyper:

why is “expecting people to second guess what they are doing” such a high bar of expectation.

how do 9gb vscode ctag files get checked in into a git repo AND THEN MERGED INTO MAIN ;-;

@loke @ktemkin i have seen a README with C Preprocessor #ifdefs.

People will abuse the C preprocessor for anything