Notices by rabble (rabble@mastodon.social)

@strypey it was
@blaine and @ralphm who did the work on XMPP. I gave a talk about some of the ideas and OSCON with @kellan but never worked on the Twitter code base itself or the XMPP federation.

@dansup I'm underwater with scaling issues and launching, but i'd love to collaborate, federate, and build on a common network between divine and loops. We're all part of team open.

I'm not a big AP person, but your work inspired me and i think we should build compatible and together.

Medium has been around for so long we might forget it’s important role in the social media ecosystem. @coachtony, CEO of Medium, talked with me about Medium’s evolution, AI, their Reddit like content moderation system, and how they differ from substack.

https://youtu.be/ewrc0iPYsq0?si=ODpFyjNSjwOioEVh

My talk from #why2025 about the need for fundamental freedoms similar to those we have for free software but for social media is online. youtu.be/DIsNPMHWKSI

@mmasnick @wjmaggos @onthemedia @blaine absolutely. The paper was really important in making sense of the social media protocol movement and explaining it to the world.

@wjmaggos @onthemedia I mean @blaine made Twitter, the federated twitter over XMPP, and Webfinger which is the core of how identity works in the fediverse. Everyone was aware of prior art. All the core Bluesky people and the consultative group that created the Bluesky research paper were working on decentralized social protocols before @mmasnick wrote protocols not platforms. That essay advocated for the work of many people. It helped tons, but didn’t start things.

Giving a talk about bitchat, nostr private groups with MLS, and what we’re doing with andotherstuff.org at #why2025 in an hour at 7pm CET. Watch the stream https://streaming.media.ccc.de/why2025/delphinus

Are fediverse clients blocking users and federation with UK users and servers? Or are they hoping they’re too small to face charges under the UK OSA? Or going full KYC on all of their users and servers?

I mean how do you tell if someone has made a post about a knife in a dangerous way? It seems like compliance on an open network or with open source software is impossible.

@strypey The thing with the FEP's is that the way all the power is in the server, i can't do code with the fediverse without being somebody who runs a server. Clients have no power, users have limited power. The power balance isn't right and it causes problems which make innovation hard too.

How do we moderate the fediverse? I talked to @yoyoel for an hour about everything related to social media and the struggle to create trust and safety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS_cXVrkyVE

Substack has changed the world of journalism, making it easy for journalists to directly charge for a newsletter. Now they're growing in to a whole platform with algorithms, video, podcasts, microblogging... I sat down with their CEO Chris Best to talk about it just as they announce they've raised a $100 million in funding, and also their algorithm sent out an antisemitic push notification with a swastika icon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2dIgQbPL4

@j12t yeah I’m not sure I’ve seen it talked about publicly. The idea sounded good but the Reddit guys were really in to using a blockchain token as part of it. As far as I know the Reddit decentralized initiative got shut down. Which is why I think Bluesky being fully independent is great because it couldn’t get shutdown like that.

I’m launching a podcast talking about how social media got to where it is today and how we can build a better future, social media built on protocols.

Revolution.social

@evan @sigismundninja @Gargron I’m not convinced key based identity is the best solution. Nostr makes users learn tons of stuff but gives them total control. ATprotocol has the keys by hides them on the PDS server behind a normal login.

The migration in AP means you move to a new name and a new server and folks need to update. It feels like email forwarding. The key based system for Nostr and ATP mean host migration is seamless for everyone who follows you.

@sigismundninja I’m not sure. @Gargron and @evan know for sure.

Comparison at a very high level between Bluesky, ActivityPub (fediverse), and Nostr

https://soapbox.pub/blog/comparing-protocols/

Interested in the future of journalism on social media protocols? We're organizing a workshop in New York at Betaworks on July 16th. Come join us!

https://lu.ma/p1qy049p

@dansup the point of the slide was to say people keep reinventing the wheel. There is an air table version you’re welcome to help keep up to date. Later on I get in to categories of these protocols and projects. There are many sometimes compatible protocols built on top of AP. In a big list on this one slide without what I said, you lose all the context.

As always, @mmasnick, has an article that makes sense of what's going on with social media protocols today and the Jack Dorsey interview about his leaving the Bluesky board and funding Nostr.

https://www.techdirt.com/2024/05/13/bluesky-is-building-the-decentralized-social-media-jack-dorsey-wants-even-if-he-doesnt-realize-it/

There’s a an interview which just got published for folks wanting to know more about Jack leaving the Bluesky board and his take on Bluesky, Twitter, Nostr, Elon, and Bitcoin.

He was responsible for Bluesky and twitter existing, and it’s interesting to see why he left.

https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mike-solana