Notices by rabble (rabble@mastodon.social), page 2

@atomicpoet if I want to both talk to my church friends and sex worker friends I could get permission to write my messages to both.

Beyond that. We need encrypted groups, I’m leaning towards the MLS derived model that p2panda uses vs the way ahau.io does it in scuttlebutt or the size limited signal / WhatsApp groups.

The offline stuff is possible if nostr clients had a local relay that federated under the Inter relay gossip protocol with cloud hosted relays.

@atomicpoet models.

In effect I think nostr relays will end up with a fediverse style gossip, you write to yours but it then the relay sends copies to the relays used by users who want to follow you.

The big difference is that in this system the server isn’t in control of your data, identity, and follow graph.

But there will be “bad” relays that the others refuse to federate with and clients might end block at the app levels. Think a church relay might block the sex worker relays.

But…

@atomicpoet Right now nostr either has open relays, limited read / write access, or paid write / open read, or paid read/write. But the paying doesn’t solve the real moderation issue. Decisions about what content should be allowed on a relay will need to be made.

We think that’s fine. Relays should be community controlled. Sure some folks can pay, but really it’s more like are these people posting content I feel comfortable hosting. We can build models with a bunch of different governance….

@atomicpoet the answer is longer than I can put in a toot but I can outline some of the ideas.

Nostr creates feeds like scuttlebutt so you can build an app that displays who you follow and the next degree out. Just like you could have a scuttlebutt app that ran to pull in feeds n hops out to try and show the entire visible network.

Relays are very similar to the way we use rooms & pubs in SSB. They can be a point of shared moderation similar to ssb rooms/pubs but also how the fediverse works

@atomicpoet yeah if we can’t solve these plus have a path towards it being a self governed commons then what’s the point. I agree they’re important.

@atomicpoet here’s Andre’s post about the future of Manyverse https://viewer.scuttlebot.io/%25kXJEMOQGZqeVZnOK11cUW%2FY9RYzelQwsKWui7OCPYOE%3D.sha256

I think the social scoping isn’t what’s holding ssb. Back. I think the reliance on being able to work offline first and the immutable signed log that you need to go back the the first post to validate is. That’s what is keeping us from having delete and multidevice and what makes private groups much harder.

@evan I’ve done it a dozen times. Honestly it’s always kind of hard but I think I figured it out. I get settled and find friends faster. For now. I’m quite happy settled in Aotearoa New Zealand.

Nostr continues to see tremendous growth.

I don't understand the American credit score system... Last month, I paid off all of my credit cards, so I now carry no balance. And my credit score dropped by a lot.

This is total bullshit.
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