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Sometimes when I'm sad I remember the #Fediverse exists and then I feel lighter

@icedquinn to who! :)

Something really low probability is happening

@cwebber not completely :) if you:

1. take it to mean 'I believe you are not currently behaving as rationally as you might think you are in case you're interested'
2. believe that the person's position might help you better inform your priors or estimates

And the people participating are under a shared understanding of good intentions, etc. I think it can be a good thing to say?

@cwebber yes, exactly!

Which other tools do you think we need?

I sincerely believe one is shaped like an [[Agora]], which is what I've been trying to build, but I'm interested in the whole category.

@cwebber @cwebber@octodon.social

Hi Christine!

Welcome to our instance, and please let us know if you need anything! 🥳

@cwebber haha not at all, it's a pleasure to have you! we added some more sidekiq workers and it seems we're catching up :)

the tech working group welcomes you! we coordinate on matrix if anything comes up anytime (https://wiki.social.coop/wiki/Tech_Working_Group for links) or you can just tag us over here -- @dphiffer @3wordchant @edsu et al

@icedquinn haha no, but now I'd like to know why that was your hypothesis! :)

I think they cut me off because I used to post about cross-posting X to the Fediverse -- that or they banned me for some other term, like revolution, or for some behavior that triggered automatic Gulag-like response.

I guess the answer is no then

I've been reading more about the Fediforum cancellation and I just don't get it.

I thought it had been cancelled because one of the organizers had made some horrible transphobic remarks. But, on reading them, I'm surprised by how mild they are (of course I *am* a cis man, but I thought I was reasonably well informed about what was transphobic and what wasn't).

Am I just completely clueless about what kind of assertion is seen as hate?

https://wedistribute.org/2025/03/fediforum-canceled/ has the remarks (thread continues)

The person in question is a cis woman. Summarizing her captured assertions (I saw screenshots elsewhere), I could paraphrase them as:

- There are two sexes, there are many genders.

Of course this leaves aside intersex individuals, which is problematic, but the gist of it seems roughly correct to me. Am I missing something about this one?

- Sex is a question of gametes, shouldn't be confused with gender.

This on the whole seems reasonable to me as well. Again, if I'm missing something, please do call it out!

She calls this kind of confusion 'sex denialism', which isn't a term I had heard before and can be seen as inflammatory, but otherwise seems reasonable as a concept.

- Transgender individuals shouldn't compete with cisgender individuals in the same sports categories.

Well, I mean, I know this is controversial. I am unsure if I personally agree or not. *But* I am of the opinion that a woman should be able to hold this opinion about women sports.

The post that seems most problematic to me is "Telling male children who have feminine tights (sic) they must be female is what is happening and it is hurting boys. Go listen to detransitioners and what has happened as the culture has gone competely (sic) bonkers confusing sex and gender."

This one does make it sound like there is a 'trans agenda' 'converting' children, being overall harmful, etc. But it seems if 'detransitioners' exist then it should be fine to call out their existence.

@icedquinn hi blob! How have you been?

Remember the old internet?

What you see in the screenshots and in the archives :)

I'm back in Zürich!

The US was fine, in the sense that I was able to ignore all the weirdness that is going on over there and just focus on work (my privilege of course).

@dalias @lritter @michiel @eARCwelder I know the work of Peter Singer, William MacAskill and Toby Ord reasonably well and I can vouch for at least the first two, in particular Peter Singer. I consider them all founders (Peter Singer's thought of course predates EA by long) and there's essentially zero chance they are fascists.

So I understand you seem frustrated with EA but these are strong claims with no backing I'm aware of. If not Wikipedia, what sources should I search/read?

@icedquinn I think in the long term AI will be aligned with humanity, because it is a mirror/lens of humanity (or will have started as one). This was me being optimistic and assuming that humanity also has an overall positive impact on the universe, despite our many shortcomings and looming risks

@lritter @dalias @michiel @eARCwelder I've read the wikipedia article on EA, I don't think it discredits the movement at all despite what fringe people within the movement might have believed, or believe. It needs to be OK not to cancel a huge human group because of beliefs of say a 5% (to make up a number, choose one?) subset.

Also I hope you're not proposing reporting this conversation as I think it's been very respectful? But happy to discuss if you think any part was out of line!