Notices by In #Flancia we'll meet (flancian@social.coop)

@dansup hi! I've received reports you are, or used to be, transphobic. Could you clarify your position w.r.t. these reports and the LGBTQ+ community in general when you can? Thank you!

@ntnsndr @edumerco @sam @dazinism @mako @edsu @dphiffer @3wordchant above the best client for xmpp: what's the best web interface? web first is a must for accessibility IMHO

@ntnsndr @edumerco @sam @dazinism @mako @edsu @dphiffer @3wordchant this is a bad move honestly. Reliability and scalability should not be locked behind a paywall. It seems unethical to leave the community with a substandard implementation, systems that don't scale well tend to be inefficient in many ways.

@dynamic @sam @dazinism @ntnsndr @mako thanks for the feedback both of you!

- I think it's totally workable if it can run comfortably within the VPS that currently only hosts our wiki and our (under-utilized) single-sign-on service, called Hypha. A test should sort that out.
- I don't think the requirements are going to be too different in the end (continued...)

@dynamic @sam @dazinism @ntnsndr @mako we should set up the services in question using [[coop cloud]], which makes it cheap/quick if the recipes for the services exist. I will check which ones exist and report back.

In any case we would want to set up SSO so people can use the password they use e.g. with the wiki to test.

Which service(s) we try first and which ones we support depends on difficulty and time/interest available within the TWG, assuming no other additional costs for the coop.

@dynamic @sam @dazinism @ntnsndr @mako

@edsu @dphiffer @3wordchant FYI about possible messaging services experiments ^ :)

@dynamic @sam @dazinism @ntnsndr @mako @edsu @dphiffer @3wordchant

I checked https://git.coopcloud.tech/coop-cloud for recipes for: zulip, an xmpp server and a matrix server. I found so far:

- the mainline main matrix implementation, presumably slow but well maintained
- snikket (xmpp)

Calix, would recipes for conduit and zulip make sense as contributions?

WTF, 774 people follow me here?!

Thank you all for reading me and for our interactions in the #Fediverse!

@ntnsndr @ktoddbrown @edumerco @MarieVC @Matt_Noyes @threads https://matrix.to/#/%23SocialCoop%3Amatrix.org/%24173650159421467FzeqQ%3Amatrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=autonomic.zone&via=horsein.space&via=diasp.in

@ntnsndr @ktoddbrown @edumerco @MarieVC @Matt_Noyes yes Nathan, I agree with you, it is a shame. I started precisely with this position and it got reinforced on seeing the number of social links that would be severed; there are more than 500 follow relationships between Social.coop and Threads.net as of today.

But reading and reflecting on the ethical impact that this decision by [[Meta]] might have on the #Fediverse and society, I think I am leaning on voting yes at this time.

@threads FYI ^

#PSA: the #SocialCoop community will cast a vote on defederating with threads.net (suspending). We have been discussing the issue as a community; we wanted to take feedback from all affected and give the community a chance to express themselves.

@ktoddbrown @edumerco @MarieVC @Matt_Noyes @ntnsndr FYI/please review and share as needed, see the matrix open chat room and https://doc.anagora.org/against-meta for a draft

[[meta now lets people say gay and trans people have mental illnesses]], as reported on [[wired]]:

https://archive.is/BAWx7

h/t @cwebber for the link

@cwebber wow, moving moderation from California to Texas to "restore trust"... is not even the weirdest thing here by far. This is cynical levels of bowing to Trump and beyond.

@cwebber thanks for calling attention to it! Now watching it.

My first reaction: "free speech", "legacy media" both make an appearance right away and that is telling.

Funny that "drugs" is the first item in the list of "bad things" that includes terrorism and child exploitation (!), given that... some drugs are good. Maybe he meant illegal ones? Anyway :)

I can't believe how commonplace it has become for sites to [[hijack the back button]] -- you know, that thing where you press back to go to the previous site (where you saw the link to the site you're at) but instead of going back you end up in an ad section you've never even seen before.

I'm liking [[GoToSocial]] a lot :)

I looked recently into the question 'why does account migration in the Fediverse not port over posts, only followers'.

The answer, idiosyncratically summarized, seems to be: because people are scared.

Scared of old posts, I mean. The concern seems to be 'what if some of the old posts are bad'.

Well what if they aren't, I say. I'd rather be able to work within a sphere of high trust if every party involved agrees to do that, and deal with exceptions.

To expand: the concern from some instance admins (who?) is that people could have e.g. racist or otherwise problematic posts deep in their history, and those would be 'grandparented in' with little scrutiny.

I don't quite get 1. why the normal flow of people eventually seeing those and reporting them is not good enough and 2. why it is suddenly OK for good actors not to be able to perform basic reasonable actions in systems because bad actors might abuse them.