@neil
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Latter (knowledge commons) has nothing necessarily to do with the digital - only contingently, in the present historical epoch of digitally mediated hegemony, digital media and the participation in power circuits of a Professional-managerial class.

Former (digital commons) has nothing especially to do with literacy, organising capacity & labour power - except that organising the digital - like organising *anything* that is even slightly complex - pivots on collective labour power.

@neil
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Knowledge commons is a misnomer bcos there is no such thing as knowledge. (!!)

What there IS/ARE is/are *practices* of knowing, communicating and organising.

So a 'knowledge commons' is a commons of literacy and (collective) labour power, thro which commoners are able to capably understand and organise their practical life as a commons, in a world of commons. It's a cultural commons.

@neil
Enormous difference! Here's a (tendentious, materialist, contra-idealist) interpretation . .

Digital commons is a (the?) commons centred on digital media and digital devices - might include many kinds of automation, guidance of material systems, provisioning and transportation of material goods etc. bringing a major focus on the digital capability and literacy of the commoners. It's a material commons of code, devices, media, enabled and stewarded by cultural capability (aka skill)

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@mayfirst
Great to know the Organization is here, as well as particular friends. Keep on keeping on💚

So, what other orgs/projects to follow? Well . .
@SocialCoop + @Matt_Noyes @emi @anaulin
#meetcoop #commonshour + @mike_hales @Wtebbens @Anarcat
#valueflows + @bhaugen How about '@valueflows'?
@disco_coop + @Stacco
@bonfire

Where is '@Solidarity Economy Principles' @cheyenna ?

Mayfirst how about tagging some of your affiliate orgs who are fediverse?

@cheyenna
Thanks 👍️ I guess I'm exploring whether projects as identities here in social.coop might help the universe of our orgs become more visible and transparent. I hadn't discovered SEP&P and its website till specifically mentioned here, even tho I knew of SolidarityNYC and yr own profile.

If there's reasons why Mastodon accounts for projects might not be a good idea - do say? 😊

@mayfirst @SocialCoop @Matt_Noyes @emi @anaulin @Wtebbens @Anarcat @bhaugen @disco_coop @Stacco @bonfire

Anybody know much about the Earthstar storage protocol? @bhaugen @edsu @strypey @bonfire
https://earthstar-project.org/
Looks like it's kin to SSB? It's a small and resilient distributed storage protocol designed with a strong focus on simplicity, and the social realities of peer-to-peer computing kept in mind. It's offline-first. Servers are optional.
https://earthstar-project.org/docs/what-is-it
Who's in the project? https://earthstar-project.org/community/our-backers
Created by Cinnamon

@Matt_Noyes @bhaugen
Did you see this link earlier?
https://corporate-rebels.com/panelfisa-handbook/
Handbook of self managed organisation. In the auto sector.

Not a coop. Not a commons. So, 'just' a player in the automotive market? No, some kind of 'social enterprise' - see the values of the NER Group.
> "Trust, communication, solidarity, transparency, ethics, no dismissals for economic reasons, shared decision making, profit sharing, and commitment to society."

Good old-fashioned workers' control? Plus ethics.

Check out participatory design conference papers?
https://schedule.pdc2022.org/papers
Two decades since I was routinely involved in the PDC circuits. Bloody hell! So, you would expect things to have shifted focus and mode. Indeed, they have.

Kinda different from the Design Justice orientation. More theorising - good, imho . Less bounded by career perspectives of young UX designers? Less vociferously intersectional, but working on the ground (typically, from academia?) Etc

What d'you make of this pair?

@dajb
Welcome back ? Would be good to chat around your experience/perceptions of BBB. As noted here
https://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2022/05/23/jitsi-sociocracy/
Comment in our forum?
https://forum.meet.coop/c/help/how-to/51