Notices by Delta Chat (delta@chaos.social), page 2

Delta Chat is an in-between project: often ignored as a messenger by e-mail companies/experts and then ignored by messenger companies/experts because of its use and interoperability with e-mail. As Heinz von Foerster once said: "If you are doing something genuinely new then don't ask the experts. If you do something that has already been done, then, by all means, ask the experts." FWIW many experts have verified Delta Chat's security mechanics https://delta.chat/en/help#security-audits :)

@crepererum @stillgreenmoss @ben @besendorf OpenMLS is an almost decade- long effort with the IETF work starting in 2018. We have studied it and are following developments but one known big issue is its dependency on "total message ordering" which can not be easily obtained in federated settings. Several people, including Matrix folks, have tried to remedy it but we do not know of any practical solution to make OpenMLS work reasonably well for non-centralised settings.

#deltachat just got four major usability improvements as the 1.44 releases are rolling out
💗 Reactions on all platforms
💗 iOS Push notifications
💗 Multi-account desktop sidebar
💗 share invite links via other messengers. Enjoy :)
https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-12-jumbo44

The last #deltachat 1.44 release round did not only contain a lot of UI/UX milestones but also 20 security fixes based on a deep analysis from Yuanming Song and colleagues of the Applied Cryptography group at ETH Zuerich https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-25-crypto-analysis-securejoin

Given the experiences of the last decade it's healthy to distrust #decentralized tech if

- it's mainly developed by a centralized power structure
- the involved technology is very complex
- there is coin or VC funding involved

#deltachat has 1/100th, if even that, of what other popular messenging projects have in terms of moneys. But our distributed top-notch expertise in UI, crypto, networking tech and our federated collaborative practises across these concerns, try to make up for it ...

@clacke @geerlingguy You might try sending the "editor" app into saved-messages or one of your groups. It's an actual editor you can use then in a multi-device setting, to keep and modify notes. https://webxdc.org/apps/

While certain platform billionaires chatter about "everything" or "super" app architectures, we prefer to deliver and improve them — message "Hi" to xstore@testrun.org :)
#deltachat #webxdc

https://delta.chat/en/2023-08-11-xstore#23

@pixelcode we have had our troubles with fdroid classifications as well due to some automated code scanners (some code built but not linked into the final artifact) disabling fdroid releases retroactively (causing troubles foramy users). We scrambled to fix and adapt and remained doubtful of.the precise reasoning and procedures. Then again, fdroid has a lot of things to cope with and we respect and depend on their work.

@fu If we may ask, what do you feel the top reasons preventing more of your contacts to use Delta Chat?

@nx it's conceptually similar but API/protocol-wise quite different. If someone would try to implement another transport layer in our Rust Core library then a big part of the apps would "just work". But that is a big if, and not a trivial undertaking.

@nx @LemmyDev I asked around in a dev chat - whether it's possible depends a lot on whether ActivityPub offers additional fields for metadata. In E-Mail you can just add more headers, not sure how easy that is with ActivityPub. Maybe the @LemmyDev folks know it out of their head?

@LemmyDev @nx hm, looks interesting :) but client functionality is not on the roadmap for this crate right now, it seems?

@LemmyDev @nx yep - a shame. Without ActivityPub client-to-server being wide-spread, it doesn't make sense to implement it as a transport protocol for Delta Chat next to SMTP/IMAP.