Notices by ThePfromtheO (thepfromtheo@social.vivaldi.net)

@dansup
Where is the #blog?
#Link, pls?

@tyil @SuperDicq @Vivaldi

“Generally a browser's most important thing is their engine.”

Think more, and you'll realise that #Vivaldi is an #exception. It's only #sellingPoint, as I said, is the #UI. There are many other #privacyFocused #browsers, #VivaldiBrowser's #powerfull #features are what keep it #afloat TBH.

"It's somehow fine for them to take the work of others, but this doesn't go both ways? Does this not sound a bit weird to you?"

If they make their work #available to be accessed by anyone, they'll die in the end. #VivaldiTechnologies is a much smaller company compared to #Google and #Mozilla.

"But even with Mozilla actively trying to make Firefox the worst it can be, the debloated forks are nowhere near as popular as the main thing, so your whole argument falls flat in reality."

No, it doesn't, because #FF was released much earlier than V. This means it had much more time to become #popular enough to keep it's #userbase, while Vivaldi wouldn't.

"forks are unlikely to become more popular than the main thing to begin with. They'd have to really fuck shit up to make a fork suddenly take all their marketshare, and at that point its just the market working as intended."

Yes, for more popular browsers. But for new ones, this is not true.

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi
#VivaldiBrowser's most important thing is the #UI. #OpenSourcing it all would still mean letting others take it, no matter of how it is with others.
After all, #VivaldiTechnologies is a company that relies mainly on this. Some people complain about #DirectMatch and #sponsored #searchEngines, even though they are removable. If they would #openSource it, soon there would appear a “#debloated #Vivaldi” version #forked by some people. How would Vivaldi make #money then, I ask you?

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi
“I really hope they change this policy and publish the full source code at some point. Because if they do Vivaldi can actually start hanging out with the big boys like Firefox or Chromium.”

#Vivaldi's answer on this: “But, the way we see it, Vivaldi is more than just its code. It is our brand, with associated trademarks we have to protect. This means any fork needs to be branded as a different product.

And this new product then would become an immediate competitor without putting any significant technical work to reach that status.”
https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser-open-source/#:~:text=But%2C%20the%20way,reach%20that%20status.

“a very small, but important part of the codebase.”
That's the whole point of it

And yes, this can be done very easily, but, as they said, there's no coming-back. They don't only have to think about the ease of doing something, but also about it's (long-term) consequences.

#VivaldiBrowser #VivaldiTechnologies #Vivaldi #VivaldiBrowser #VivaldiTechnologies #Vivaldi #browser #browsers #mobileApp #AndroidApp #dataCollection #identification #browser_identification #privacy #dataPrivacy #privacyMatters #FOSS #openSource #openSourceProject #openSourceProjects #checkYourself #codeSource #software

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi

Gonna ask.

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi

No, not all the #UI #sourceCode is published, because they #protect it (otherwise it would be taken by others and they would lose their main #sellingPoint).

P.S. I'm not happy to say this, but this is the #truth...

#VivaldiBrowser #VivaldiTechnologies #Vivaldi

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi @phnt @waifu
Well, they are #important, at least for me. After all, #Mastodon doesn't have a #recommendationAlgorithm, so I instead #follow #users and #hashtags

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi @phnt @waifu

Then, why not going and finding a better one?

@waifu @SuperDicq @Vivaldi
#Well… #got #used #to #that.

As you can see, #there #is a #hashtag #for #almost #everything.
And #BTW, I can #create #any #new #ones #if #needed :)

@phnt @waifu @SuperDicq @Vivaldi

#Hashtags #are #important #on #Mastodon:
https://www.ask.com/entertainment/mastodon-hashtags-maximizing-visibility-engagement

@mischievoustomato @SuperDicq @Vivaldi
Is this one so important?
(just asking)
#VivaldiBrowser #VivaldiTechnologies #Vivaldi?

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi
Then, what about the #sourceCode #website?

#VivaldiBrowser #behindVivaldiBrowser #VivaldiTechnologies #Vivaldi #codeSource #software

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi

Not very sure but it looks like that

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi
Really?
https://vivaldi.com/source/

#VivaldiBrowser #VivaldiTechnologies #Vivaldi #browser #browsers #mobileApp #AndroidApp #dataCollection #identification #browser_identification #privacy #dataPrivacy #privacyMatters #FOSS #openSource #openSourceProject #openSourceProjects #checkYourself #closedSource #sourceAvailable #sourceCode

@SuperDicq @Vivaldi

Why not?

@dansup
WOW, so you do so much work, and is it all FOR FREE?! :tony_astonished:
Aren't you going to add, for example, #paid-only features and so on, in order to support the #development?

@lokjo
Hmm...
Do you see what I see too?
One of two: I'm blind, or people don't realise what #Framasoft can do through #PeerTube!
(Or, maybe the sites has some issues... Let's hope!)

@RickiTarr
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