Notices by aschmitz (aschmitz@ostatus.lardbucket.org)

@ryanc But of course.

@ryanc Have you no respect for the way things are designed to be‽ 😛

(Honestly my best argument is that all floor fans I've used have, when clamped down, shown that they are secretly eccentric rotating masses, and that can lead to annoying noises or possibly vibrating fasteners loose when attached to a ceiling.)

@ryanc But also, yeah, more I'd just say that the box fans I've tried to clamp down, even in windowframes, tend to get real wobbly real fast. I'm also using what are probably the cheapest box fans available, you can probably do better, but they work fine as box fans - I just would probably regret trying to make them a ceiling fan.

That said, I also don't love air blowing on me, so I get most of the de-stratification benefit by pointing a fan up into free space from the floor.

@ryanc BGP.

@ryanc Fair. I was thinking of an external hard drive, but I only saw a couple of those before they almost universally went to micro-B. But checking my bridge it is indeed full-on B.

@ryanc USB 3.0 B? ... oscilloscopes? I have a scanner with it but there's literally no point over 2.0.

@ryanc Old Dropbear, maybe?

@ryanc That's what happens when you accidentally inject Earl Grey.

@ryanc +2 Funny

@ryanc I feel like there's a moderately limited set of cases where you need to dynamically do that in a single response, rather than having a cacheable file with code and providing the configuration in a separate (probably earlier) response.

@ryanc Gotta love a "for example" that's vague but implies like 1-2 very specific things you could be using it for. (Also: neat!)

@ryanc But if you have to estimate how many problems that is, you're well on your way.

@Lady @lanodan You're not going to snipe me into being a Gnome (or C, for that matter) developer that easily!

... *probably* not, anyway.

@lanodan @Lady Kind of, yes. Though systemd and ninja only need it for building, nginx only(?) needs it for libnginx-mod-http-xslt-filter, and php uses it for php-xml. And we're both leaving out things, but I was just sort of surprised by how few things actually seem to have firm dependencies on it. On the other hand, there's enough that if it stopped working with, say, a new glibc/musl version, there would probably be a fix in short order.

@awilfox Sorry, the background on not being as perturbed by those is that desktop software tends to have different attack surface and needs than server software. But you're right of course that they're not unimportant.

(And as someone who has primarily used Linux on the desktop since (eep!) 2004, I do take it seriously, but I don't agree that it sucks.)

@Lady It actually has a surprisingly small set of rdepends within Ubuntu. Some important packages, like Postgres, but mostly desktop software besides Postgres, Icecast, and Asterisk, and it's hard to say the latter have all too many users. There's Ruby's Nokogiri, but given the near-weekly security updates to that, I might almost prefer someone Rewrite it in Rust (or literally anything).

@ryanc ==ASvBXZmVHbslHI59WdgQ2bhACVhtWZgMWYyVGIvZGI59WdyNXZsZmL

@djsundog *twiddles the radio dial slightly*
🎶 ... the Empire State laid low
and life went on beyond the Palisades 🎶

@ryanc Eh, yeah, not the worst idea. Really it's just a question of whether the mounts would shear off, but if the front is flimsy or whatever, then it could happen. (Unlikely though.)

@ryanc Sure, especially if it's made for that. I have a medium-depth one and it only mounts via two front ears anyway.