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   aschmitz (aschmitz@ostatus.lardbucket.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-May-2025 09:11:38 JST aschmitz

   @Lady It actually has a surprisingly small set of rdepends within Ubuntu. Some important packages, like Postgres, but mostly desktop software besides Postgres, Icecast, and Asterisk, and it's hard to say the latter have all too many users. There's Ruby's Nokogiri, but given the near-weekly security updates to that, I might almost prefer someone Rewrite it in Rust (or literally anything).

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     🌈 A. Wilcox delicately (awilfox@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Sunday, 11-May-2025 09:11:35 JST 🌈 A. Wilcox delicately

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     @aschmitz a suggestion as someone who has been on both the giving and receiving end of comments like these: please stop making it seem like the only "important" use of Linux is in the server space.

     "Some important packages [...] but mostly desktop software" implies that desktop Linux is not important. This is why the Linux desktop sucks so much. Because people don't take it seriously and don't WANT to take it seriously. It does not have to be this way.

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     🌈 A. Wilcox delicately (awilfox@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Sunday, 11-May-2025 09:38:22 JST 🌈 A. Wilcox delicately

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     @aschmitz mm, so that was more of a security "importance" than anything. Fair.

     I've been using desktop Linux since 1999, but I suppose my bar of suckitude (is that still a word?) drops lower ever year. I think all of them are terrible, Windows, Mac, KDE, especially GNOME, LXQt, XFCE, TDE, MATE, Cinnamon, elementary, I could go on… but for vastly different reasons. I primarily daily a mix of Mac and KDE and continue to desperately wish for one of two miracles: that Apple suddenly MIT or GPL's Aqua, or that KDE convinces Qt to stop using FOSS users as guinea pigs and beta testers only.

     I am aware neither of these will happen.

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     aschmitz (aschmitz@ostatus.lardbucket.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-May-2025 09:38:23 JST aschmitz

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     • 🌈 A. Wilcox delicately

     @awilfox Sorry, the background on not being as perturbed by those is that desktop software tends to have different attack surface and needs than server software. But you're right of course that they're not unimportant.

     (And as someone who has primarily used Linux on the desktop since (eep!) 2004, I do take it seriously, but I don't agree that it sucks.)