@ZeroSum06@RememberUsAlways I wholeheartedly agree with your first statement. But government is not some inactive clump of matter that does as it’s told. It is comprised of individuals who lust after power themselves. Sometimes they collaborate with wealthy people in the private sector who lust after power. Sometimes they do it on their own. But either way, the problem is their possession of power over us, no matter who is trying to abuse it or for what purpose.
@ZeroSum06@RememberUsAlways And incidentally, some of the worst ideas have come directly from within government. You seem to be operating on the idea that something being “government” somehow makes it inherently pure and righteous and noble, but everything in the private sector is inherently evil.
@ZeroSum06@RememberUsAlways What I’m telling you is that it doesn’t matter where the idea originates from. Without the action of Congress (and the citizens’ foolish belief in their legitimacy), the idea has no effect. I can claim I’m the King of America. But it doesn’t matter unless Congress says I am and starts following my orders.
@ZeroSum06@RememberUsAlways Now I don’t even know what argument you’re trying to make. The bank Jackson fought against was also a creation of Congress. It’s the same thing.
@ZeroSum06@RememberUsAlways Of course. But without the imprimatur and action of the state, it would just be one man’s opinion. I can say everybody in the world has to pay me a million dollars a month but nobody will do it. If Congress says it, I’ll be making calls to Gulfstream and Lamborghini.
And their claim to be independent is a classic political lie. They’re influenced heavily by politics. It was a rare act of courage by both Carter and Reagan, for example, to permit Volcker to raise interest rates to something approximating market rates that cleared the malinvestment of the 1960s and 1970s. Usually it goes the other way around.
@ZeroSum06@RememberUsAlways It’s complicated. Congress does have a role. Their deficit spending drives money creation. Money creation enables deficit spending. Congress created the Federal Reserve and the President appoints the chairman, who is politically motivated and who is accountable to Congress. They claim they’re private and independent but they clearly aren’t. It’s a mess.
@eriner@wjmaggos If people disagree on facts, including what rights people have, or whether rights even exist, how will they “decide issues together”?
Also, bigger, wealthier, and more dangerous clans getting what they want is the direct, demonstrable, and consistent result of the state throughout human history. In fact, it’s essentially the definition of what the state is.