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    Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 05:27:12 JST Matt Hamilton Matt Hamilton

    > "We need government!"

    For what?

    To form a collective and seize an illegitimate authority of "arbitrary compulsion under threat of violence" that no member individually posses?

    I don't have the authority to violate the natural rights of another person.

    An arbitrary group of people exerting supposed authority (that none of them have individually), and calling it "Government", is a brazen, illegitimate, out and open criminal enterprise.

    > we need government

    Explain why we *need* that.

    In conversation Monday, 08-Apr-2024 05:27:12 JST from noauthority.social permalink

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      ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 05:27:11 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
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      @eriner Government will always exist is the real problem, mostly because people want to rule over others.
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      Jonny (jonny@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 06:42:15 JST Jonny Jonny
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      @dcc @eriner the ability too live off grid is getting easier and more affordable every year. I think we’ll see a day where large areas in America will be populated by anarcho capitalists that just ignore the state.
      In conversation Monday, 08-Apr-2024 06:42:15 JST permalink
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      Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 08:25:00 JST Matt Hamilton Matt Hamilton
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      • BestHistorianIntheUniverse

      @Best What relevance does that have?

      In conversation Monday, 08-Apr-2024 08:25:00 JST permalink
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      BestHistorianIntheUniverse (best@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 08:25:04 JST BestHistorianIntheUniverse BestHistorianIntheUniverse
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      @eriner Did you read the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist papers?

      Why pretend not to know their arguments?

      In conversation Monday, 08-Apr-2024 08:25:04 JST permalink
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      rfichoke (rfichoke@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 09:21:47 JST rfichoke rfichoke
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      @eriner @wjmaggos If people disagree on facts, including what rights people have, or whether rights even exist, how will they “decide issues together”?

      Also, bigger, wealthier, and more dangerous clans getting what they want is the direct, demonstrable, and consistent result of the state throughout human history. In fact, it’s essentially the definition of what the state is.

      In conversation Monday, 08-Apr-2024 09:21:47 JST permalink
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      william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 09:21:49 JST william.maggos william.maggos
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      @eriner @rfichoke

      because people often disagree on facts. because people violate others' rights, even when they try not to. because some issues have to be decided together, and then some people refuse to accept the outcomes.

      and most of us think that the solution to these failures of your theory translating well to reality, shouldn't be the bigger or wealthier or more dangerous clan getting what they want.

      In conversation Monday, 08-Apr-2024 09:21:49 JST permalink

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