@slothrop @Saupreiss @Melissabeartrix yeh, it's no different to when a woman tells a man a dude is "a bit creepy".
Shit guys question it, and refuse to accept it, the decent guys say "ok, I'll make sure you never have to be around them again".
A shit ally says "I'll have to figure that out for myself", a decent ally says "I believe you"