Notices by Sam (ozof@beige.party)

@Lana @setsly

not really.
just an objection, i think, to the perpetuated misrepresentation of centrist politics.

@anubis2814 @setsly @Lana

i'm no expert, but my own understanding of centrist politics is that it is the prosecution of an agenda that satisfies the majority of people on both sides of the centre, being neither far left nor far right, appreciating that, inevitably, society is served best by combining the best of centre-right and centre-left political and economic strategy.

it's why Tony Blair was so successful.

what it isn't, is treatment of 𝘢𝘯𝘺 opposing political position, regardless of their respective extremes, as equivalent.

as in:

Dem: the same legal rights should be afforded to all citizens, regardless of their sexual orientation etc.

(this is a moderate position, and many on the right would agree)

Rep: homosexuals are deviant and shouldn't be allowed to work in schools etc.

(this is an extreme right-wing position and many on the right would disagree)

centrist: both sides make valid points etc.

which, in my opinion, misrepresents centrists, who would unequivocally support the left's position in this example, and vehemently reject the right's extreme position.

i guess some folk, lana included, have a different idea of what centrism is, though.

@Lana @anubis2814 @setsly

i'm not, lana

it's not a matter of 𝘱𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘺, but definition.

if we always disagree on definition, so be it, but centrism 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴 seem to be 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥 more in terms of moderate policy rather than an indifference to any left- or right-wing position

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism
https://chambers.co.uk/search/?query=centrism&title=21st
https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=centrism

@Lana @anubis2814 @setsly

the fallacy just doesn't apply.

my definition is narrow, because unlike Scotsmen it is necessarily defined by a basic idea, (and why i included the Chambers and OED definitions), while Scotsmen are obvioulsy not wholly defined by their inclination to sweeten their porridge.

you're not even defining centrists. you're just characterising them, and in a way that contradicts 𝘢𝘯 accepted definition.

@aral @Lana

it was? i'll be honest, it seemed very iffy to me, but fair enough.
could you post a link to that source?

@aral @Lana

please remember that you're attacking a person you don't know, on the strength of a single screen grab of a bizarrely worded and therefore very dubious Slack conversation.
no-one has verified this post as authentic as far as i know, which means these attacks are harrassment at the very least and defamation at worst.
isn't this precisely the sort of behaviour we've been condemning on X?
i think there's a significant chance you're damaging the mental health and professional standing of a completely innocent person and i know we're better than that.
if employees at themusiciansclub.net post confirmation that Baldvin did indeed post this rant, then fine, have at him.
until then, let's keep it hypothetical.

well.
best of luck today, Americans

but also, for fucks sake, get your shit together

@TheBreadmonkey
but an ape already 𝘥𝘪𝘥 produce the complete works of shakespeare, and it didn't really take that long, involve very many apes or even use any typewriters at all, so stick that up your clay pipe and smoke it, maths