@johanvdw@garrett I don’t remember if AW1.121 had an alternative access (I’m finding navigating the map a bit confusing—might ask a person with better eyes to look for me), but if it did, it was very difficult to find (my guide didn’t find it, and we had to go upstairs). That was for a BoF, not a talk, though.
But my main issue will always be how the crowdedness affects mobility. A lot of mobility and orientation devices require space, and people are too close to each other for that to work.
Tem algo muito brasileiro em olhar para um objeto pesado e denso e pensar, "Nossa, esse trem aí na cabeça de alguém talvez mata" (a Fernanda Torres comentando sobre como a estatueta do Globo de Ouro é pesada) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZJZtrPGb6w
(E uma das chuvas dessa semana chegou muito perto de se tornar a chuva mais volumosa da história dos registros da cidade, só não conseguiu por um pouco mais de 1 mm de diferença.)
@thibaultmol Both, but indoor areas were the most difficult to navigate, and particularly areas near booths!
fyi, every blind person can read braille, and I’d say that the circulation issues are far more latent than understanding where you are (that’s easier in that context, getting to places because of obstacles or crowded areas is much harder).
@thibaultmol No worries, your question is very pertinent! You need to give people ample space for circulation, and the placement of booths, for example, complicated the flow of attendees. I remember one of my guides told me there was some separation between circulation areas and places to stop (near booths), but it was very narrow still, I couldn’t use my white cane the way I’m used to (rolling the tip from side to side). I was still hit a lot by other people (because they had no space either).
I say that because several of the considerations I’ve seen floating around the fediverse are 100% important, and we need to acknowledge them all. We can’t move forward if we keep focused just working on improving parts of that whole and never address the whole; and we can’t do anything different if we keep limiting ourselves to dream mediocre dreams. Dare to dream way beyond what you currently see.
Oh, and addressing Jack Dorsey’s presence at FOSDEM: I invite you all to think about it as a symptom of something bigger happening at FOSDEM, not as an issue in and of itself. The mobility issues, the grim logistics of watching talks in person, the difficulty in connecting with others in crowded spaces, the “let it rip” attitude when talking about flu or COVID—those are a part of a whole that tells a story, and this is an invitation to think about how we can do better as a community in general.
@pBaesse Falando da perspectiva de uma aluna, gosto muito quando esse método é bem implementado (e docentes estão interessados em interagir e apoiar os estudantes). A minha maior tristeza é quando alguém usa “sala invertida” como código para “vou me desconectar completamente da turma porque tenho outras ocupações”.
@matt I had a really great time at an open science meeting in Buenos Aires in 2023 (with really strong COVID precautions), as well as FOSSY when they had a mask requirement. I keep wearing respirators everywhere I go, and that has never diminished my enjoyment of a trip. There are some trade-offs, yes, but they're so worth it, imo.
@gvlx Oh yes, I thought about that all the time. My university campus isn’t best in class in terms of accessibility, but I did expect more from a much wealthier city in the Global North.
@gvlx I feel like you’d get the same level of enjoyment being in Brussels and just attending adjacent events or parties (which is what a friend of mine did last year). I love watching talks, and I’ve learned invaluable lessons from other people that way. But I’d often find myself watching them online, or watching them after the event because the logistics of attending them in person were grim.
I interweave technology and liberation.My fediverse lore: I’m the person who, 7 years ago, thought it would be cool if Mastodon and many of its related projects had a Brazilian Portuguese translation—and got that ball rolling.