@BethanyBlack this is too good to be true, and I don’t want to look it up on the off chance it isn’t, so I will now very willfully forget that I didn’t see a source and try to remember this as gospel. 🤞 so awesome and so priors-confirming
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Ugh (“ugh”) (migriverat@zeroes.ca)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 21:56:48 JST Ugh (“ugh”) @scottsantens @Jorsh Now that this is (yet again) clear, I look forward to the “fiscally conservative” embracing this aggressively.
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Ugh (“ugh”) (migriverat@zeroes.ca)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 23:22:31 JST Ugh (“ugh”) @lillyfinch @theogrin @Jeramee @JuliusGoat
Please please someone come up with the solution for this scenario. I like the above for dealing with bad faith actors, which is most of the world. But there’s the occasional:
1) good faith actor,
2) whom we are attached to or love or are stuck with or multiple,
3) who thinks we are crazy,
4) but we aren’t because we’re objectively correct because facts are things,
5) but the surrounding circumstances and/or groupthink make us look aberrent,
6) and we’ve already burned our credibility by prior arguments and/or failing to empty the dishwasher last Tuesday,
7) and we don’t have the personality to give and they don’t have the personality to receive those mealy-mouthed and unrealistic psychobabble “when you say x I feel y and please help me understand z and can you tell me what you would do in my circumstance if you assumed L, M, and N” and take all history, emotions, and embarrassment out of the situation, because we are human and to some small degree adult and can’t just set all that shit aside,
8) and we need to reset back to “but look at this as if you hadn’t heard all the experts and were just building up from some 9th grade biology and physics and your memory of how you’ve seen things like smoke happen in the real world”,
9) and we don’t want to be dicks and humiliate anyone but want to give them a way to walk it back without being totally humiliated themselves,
10) and want to still live in a society,
11) and want to admit all the horrible negatives that will come with changing your mind, such as the facts that:
A) masks are somewhat uncomfortable,
B) and they’re unpleasant,
C) and they make you look like a weirdo but-jet-fuel-can’t-melt-steel! theorist,
D) and they’re ugly,
E) and they constrain your lifestyle and your social life,
F) and they’re not 100% effective,
G) and you have to be super diligent all the time about fit and use, and the slightest infraction will invalidate all your points with all your friends because they’ll be like “aha! See, you’re not perfect either with this so why would I do anything if I can’t be assured of not getting Covid!”,
H) and you can’t actually SEE any of this anyway and it gets super tiring and you will daily wonder if maybe you ARE crazy because most people seem fine and even happier not worrying about this shit,
I) and the humidity!
12) but they’re not crazy and you’re not crazy and the people who actually have the time and energy to think about these things on a policy level are just straight up fucking us over,
13) …and you just want this close person to be able to see that, in whatever way is easiest for them to do it, that gets you back on the same page about this culture-defining thing#CovidIsNotOver #COVIDisAirborne
Anyone have good ideas for the straightforward problem I’ve described above?
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Ugh (“ugh”) (migriverat@zeroes.ca)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 23:22:30 JST Ugh (“ugh”) @lillyfinch @theogrin @Jeramee @JuliusGoat OK, this was a spontaneous rant and I could and will do a better job at this, but I’mma keep resurfacing this because it’s something I think someone may have solved at some point, but I’ve never heard.
The problem I struggle with isn’t “how do you respond to disingenuous fucksticks” (SO many good strategies, few of them satisfying, none of them particularly effective), it’s “how do you respond to good bamboozled people without being a condescending ass or screaming in frustration”?