Notices by Erik Haugen (ech@qoto.org), page 2

@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts ah; "This **implies** he knew it" I disagree. I mean maybe, we'll probably never know. (No conspiracy; I personally never tell Sundar Pichai what I do, for example, and I can honestly tell you I am not a part of any conspiracy to keep him in the dark. Seriously: why all the conspiracy talk? It's weird.)

"publicly leaked before the lawsuite as people were pretty pissed at Trump" – I believe you but don't see the relevance to deciding e.g. whether we think Trump is the sort of person who would have initiated or approved this policy, for example. I suspect he had no idea, and when word of the lawsuit came up and/or leaked details about codes he circled the wagons (rather than apologize/etc as would have been ideal) and was more than happy to reach the settlement. Or, maybe it was his idea because he wanted only whites in his properties. Who knows.

@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts ooh, interesting – can you point me to that documentation that shows he clearly knew? thanks!

@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts "upper management"? Do we think Trump knew about the codes before the lawsuit? (I'd be *extremely* surprised to find out he did, I suspect he had almost nothing to do with the day-to-day.)

@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts Or, I don't know – I thought that is what this lawsuit had been about. Did Trump do something obviously bad, or was he just captain of the ship when something happened? You see my point?

@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts No conspiracy; just salesmen/etc being jerks, unwittingly or not.

@freemo @icedquinn "elderly man with a poor memory" isn't hostile?

@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts So... he owned a company with real estate agents who had unconscious bias or were flagrant racists... and didn't do enough about it?

I think you're using the word "racist" loosely, wrt. both presidents. But the word is losing all meaning, so go ahead I guess.

@freemo @icedquinn He's a Trump appointee. (Remember Rod Rosenstein? It's not like presidents have absolute control over the DOJ. Which is good, I guess.)

@freemo Thomas Bayes wasn't even Jewish.

@freemo Thomas Bayes isn't even Jewish.

@freemo @wild1145 @wild1145 I wonder if people unwittingly join instances like that or mstdn.social, get bored by the weird performative echo chamber, then write off Mastodon and go back to Twitter or whatever.

@freemo Yeah, I think that's what I mean.

Heh, it certainly isn't antiracist given Kendi's definition of that term...

It's worth keeping in mind that Mr. Racist represents about, say, 3% of the US (and The West in general). Mr. Woke is probably more like 10x that. Point being it almost isn't worth even talking to or about the people behind Mr. Racist: we all know they're the lunatic fringe: their harmful policy preferences don't matter, because they have no power (good to stay vigilent, though...). But the people represented by Mr. Woke have actual power; what if their illiberal policy preferences are harmful? That is an actual risk.

@freemo One annoying thing about Biden is that even though he has this grotesque put-all-black-people-in-prison resume, when he goes to pick a VP he picks.... Harris. Just wat.

@freemo I'd say it's mostly anti-woke. It isn't trying to be anti-racist; the entire point it is making takes it as a given that racism is awful, it doesn't feel the need to make that argument.

@freemo is that a different cops-kick-guy-out-of-ambulance story?

@freemo https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/2024/01/17/cops-kick-dying-man-out-of-ambulance/ "Eventually they take him to the hospital. He died a couple of weeks later."

@freemo He died weeks later in the hospital?

@freeschool @freemo $ man ls

@freemo In a recent episode of Fargo, someone fired a gun a few times right by someone's ear. Shortly afterward, it showed blood coming out of his ear; I'm not 100% sure how realistic that is but I appreciated the effort.

@freemo “free speech instances where hatespeech is the norm” yeah this is what I was getting at by saying “non-nazi Mastodon”. There are certainly plenty of instances like that.

And a certain population of non-hate righty instances/users/content, of course.

But if you browse like mastodon.com/explore unlogged-in or whatever, I feel like it definitely has a id-left tilt, at least relative to US’ overall political distribution. Just a guess, I suspect maybe you don’t see this usually because (a) don’t browse there and (b) are blocked by lots of them by this point anyway 😂