@al1r4d I hope #nostr gets out of their bitcoin obsession. There's a lot of potential in the network technology. There is just too much shilling there for my taste.
Not what i said. Bluesky is bad. Bluesky users who are into people controlling their own data and means of communication with each other probably are just victims of bluesky influencer marketing or they might actually not care - hard to say - they would know best.
But everyone who does care should definitely avoid bluesky.
Mastodon isnt perfect - i'm not even a big fan, but it is more decentralized. #nostr would be even better.
"Because #bluesky is also a digital space that we've created, you can't opt out of our moderation service in our client."
This is where their power lies, what proves they won't ever be decentralized but also what makes them welcoming to X refugees. It's probably also what made Jack Dorsey leave for #nostr. Relays without any moderation.
Moderation is hard and imo it's often too restrictive here. But it's totally necessary. The right balance is what supports the best conversations. #SocialWeb
on a decentralized network, all the posts have to be pulled together (and managed somewhat) for you somewhere.
#bluesky / #ATproto does it with the relay they control. #ActivityPub / #mastodon does it via the server your account is on. #nostr lets you use multiple relays but then your client also does some of it afaik.
the question seems to be how much of that work do people want to do themselves vs sharing the cost and time involved. what are the tradeoffs in freedom and control? #SocialWeb
Each party that is building the "new era of social media" have their own agendas.
Bluesky states literally "Bluesky is an open network. With one account, you can access both an easy-to-use social network and a shared identity across the entire social internet."
Nostr states: "Nostr is a simple, open protocol that enables global, decentralized, and censorship-resistant social media."
Threads says: "Threads is part of the fediverse, also known as the federated universe. The fediverse is a global, open, social network of independent servers operated by third parties around the world."
But they are still more or less separate and not "easy". It's this fantasy of having interoperability, but years go by and everyone are still developing their own protocols and apps. Bluesky and Threads can be partly connected to the Fediverse, but limited to one-way or opt-in setting. It's not "across the entire social internet", nowhere near.
As of right now I can reach most platforms via ActivityPub and I can fully have the control to myself with my own server on the Fediverse. That can't be achieved with Bluesky or Threads, with them you are always dependent on someone else's servers. I hope some day we'll get the bigger players fully connected too, somehow, better and easier.