@strypey @Deplorable_Degenerate @icedquinn @fish @sampler @p @silverpill @light @coolboymew

>A pub stops being what it is if the social centre of gravity shifts. But that just means it becomes something else, and that's OK too.

I disagree with this, instances are communities and those that try to shift the culture of the community unnaturally should be expelled from it and find another community. This is how hostile takeovers of communities happen and has been called invading or being a disruptive guest in forums for a reason. You will get kicked out of a pub for being disruptive as well.