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    LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 12:47:00 JSTLisPiLisPi
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    • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
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    @sicp @scathach @jeffcliff @p @Suiseiseki With a language providing no direct memory access semantics, it is impossible to wrongly access resources without either a broken implementation (for which formal verification methodology is available) or broken hardware (this is a more complicated issue).

    This means the implementation can encapsulate resources in opaque structures which cannot be interfered with.

    Implementations/compilers can provide APIs for handling cases where such memory access is required, namely hardware support.

    > And I don't get how that answers network-transparent storage and IPC; those bits don't just emerge out of thin air.

    Neither Erlang nor Goblins have that as zero-cost, they have considerable overhead even if one were to run the messaging for them over RDMA (which requires considerable node trust).

    It may be impossible (with near-zero cost) without complete node & network handler program trust.
    In conversationabout a month ago from udongein.xyzpermalink
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