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    pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 07-Apr-2025 15:29:46 JSTpistoleropistolero
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    • 翠星石
    • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
    @Suiseiseki @jeffcliff

    > Since the current holder of the Unix™ trademark

    Is passing a test suite created by a corporation that owns a trademark the sole necessary and sufficient criterion by which one decides if something is a Unix or not?

    How many versions of Research Unix pass their test suite, anyway? Does Seventh Edition pass the suite?

    ken helped with BSD's Unix. Is BSD a Unix? When ken created the first Unix, was he creating an operating system or a legal entity or a test suite?

    I've read this brief essay, "The Evolution of the Unix Time-sharing System", it was written by dmr. It seems to treat the matter of trademarking as incidental and says that Unix was created in 1969. It doesn't say anything about a test suite. Is it possible that the authors of Unix created Unix and named it Unix and that the thing they were describing is somehow not Unix? I mean, if that's true, then what was created in 1969? What is the real name of the entity that these papers have been written about? If I want to see something, I do `cd src/unix/v7` or v6 or v10...what kind of thing am I looking at? Should I rename the directory?

    If I create something, is it not real until a room full of lawyers and MBAs decide that it is? I thought I could make things, but it turns out that anything I might make is just bullshit until it is given the stamp of approval by officials with the proper authority and they get to decide what is what! Gosh, that seems to make hacking a completely pointless. But I guess their opinions matter more.

    I'll be right back, I'm deleting all this nonsense that the cool hackers made and installing Windows 11 and VSCode and asking OpenAI to write some JavaScript for me so that I can better serve the corporate overlords. There's an ARM version of Windows now, but I suppose I will have to throw away my RISC-V system. Maybe I can sell all these terrible devices and just replace it with a shiny MacBook :germanB:ro and then click on "Please, sir, may I run the program?" boxes in order to install Chrome! Chrome is official: it's not a website unless Chrome.
    evolution_of_the_unix_time-sharing_system.pdf
    research_unix_reader_1971-1986--mcilroy.pdf
    unix_prog_design.pdf
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