@icedquinn @pup @adiz What I replied here (https://udongein.xyz/objects/922fbe7d-d773-4585-879d-e7631996749b) incidentally mostly works in reply to this.

Largely the same applies to utilitarianism, which differs very little from consequentialism in its being inapplicable to standalone used, save that it is even more so.

> in increasing degrees of brainrot extremism, they do not consider "people i don't like" to be "people," so that calculus assigns suffering to negligible. it is only evil if the world state score decreases and i can just classify people i don't like as furniture.

That means that whatever other ethical/moral framework they're using to define the axioms & conditions is faulty or purposely comes to these conclusions. Assuming they've bothered to even consciously use such a framework instead of going with whatever impulse they have.

> which, is what historical communist extremists have done (lenin, stalin.)

Those were just fascists with a red coat of paint. Opportunists that took on the trappings of a different movement to fool others.