@sun @barrett @ambiguous_yelp while I agree that humans consume too much meat and the modern factory farming practices that raise our livestocks are inhumane, it is an absolutely ridiculous idea that you can erase centuries of human culture around food and expect people to change their world views on this.

It's also a privilege for people to be able to live on a vegan diet. In many parts of the world the ingredients are not available at all or it is prohibitively expensive to only consume it. There are other arguments like convenience which is highly valued when you live in a society that works you to death.

We could probably start by lifting the subsidies that make animal byproducts so cheap so we can better achieve a price parity between animal and plant based diets, but entire production an distribution networks need to be revamped as well.

This also doesn't consider that we have entire species that would go extinct if we weren't raising them to eat them. Like the turkeys we farm. You know what happens when the President pardons the turkey for Thanksgiving? Uhhh well it goes to a farm and keeps growing and growing and then dies because it can't walk anymore. Not so different from our broiler chickens which cannot survive because we bred them selectively for food. So what do we do about that? Is it more horrific to completely eliminate them from the planet?

We can eat animals and still respect them. Buying local and from smaller farms is a great first step.