@Humpleupagus @Dudebro @GoodBoyUV @nierenstein @jeffcliff To be a proper energy drink, you need to make it palatable and convenient and effective. Presently I do B vitamins and caffeine and I'm fairly happy with it. If you skip the taurine, you don't put as much strain on the body (kidneys or gall bladder can't recall). This is why Bang is so good— they substitute taurine for more caffeine.