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    ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 12-Dec-2024 23:55:32 JST⚡Lord of Misrule⚡⚡Lord of Misrule⚡
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    > > … track record of mass murder going on 2,000 years now.
    > I’m afraid I’ve got no idea what specifically you are referring to.

    Like I said before, you might want to choose a book club that has more than one book in it's selection. Just cherry picking here, but you could start with this one below for instance, based on the Catholic Discovery Doctrine...

    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/20321

    > I’m talking specifically about the Faith of the Holy Fathers

    You mean Holy Fathers like Saint Constantine who murdered his son and boiled his wife alive in a bathtub, in addition to the violent suppression of Pagan religions and philosophies and the destruction of temples, murdering of priests, etc? Or maybe Saint Cyril of Alexandria who did likewise, as well as directing a mob of Parabalini terrorists to murder the priestess Hypatia by flaying her alive with roofing tiles and then burning her as a human sacrifice? Incidentally Hypatia was later canonised as fictitious Saint, Catherine of Alexandria, albeit as a Christian scholar murdered by Pagans, rather than the truth which was the other way around. In 1969 Catherine was removed from the ecumenical calendar due to "insufficient evidence of historicity", but then added back by John Paul 2 in 2002 on account of her usefulness as a tool for propaganda. Or maybe you meant Charlemagne who went on a genocidal rampage across Europe, and arguably instigated the Viking age? Or maybe Boniface 8 the shameless paedophile and homosexual? Or Innocent 8 who had 8 bastard sons? Or Alexander 6 who turned the Vatican into a brothel? Or Julius 2 who died covered in syphilitic sores after a homosexual rampage through the brothels of Rome? Or Benedict 9 the homosexual pedophile? Or Sixtus 4 who had 6 bastard sons, one by his own sister, and made his money by taxing prostitutes? Or Sergius 3, whose debauchery was legendary and had a son by a teenaged prostitute (Marozia), who became the next pope, John 11. Or John 12, who fucked both his sisters, and had his head bashed in with a hammer by the husband of one of his mistresses when discovered mid coitus? Or John 23 who was charged with fornication, adultery, incest, sodomy, simony, theft, and murder and had a harem of nearly 200 nuns? Or Pope Leo 10 who made his money selling pardons (indulgences) for murder, polygamy, sacrilege, perjury, etc, and made his 14yo son a Cardinal? After his Cardinals tried to murder him, that holy father had his servants tortured to death for information by ripping their skin off with red hot pincers. He famously stated "How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors." Or maybe you mean Gregory 1 who started a business selling fake religious relics, and scamming gullible patrons out of their estates by claiming the world would end in 600CE and so they should donate it all to him for salvation. Or maybe you mean Saint Urban 2 who instituted a tax on sex, started the first Crusade which resulted in the death of 56 million people (Xtian, Jew and Muslim alike), and had their wives sold into slavery after he banned marriages among the clergy, unless they were willing to pay him a fee. Or maybe you mean Innocent 4 who claimed the Vatican owned the entire planet earth, instituted torture and murder (by burning alive) of witches (ie. midwives and healers), Jews and non-Catholic Xtians, then having their properties confiscated into church coffers. Or perhaps you mean Paul 4 the grand inquisitor, enthusiastic master torturer, and anti-Semite, who was so hated that 50% of the population of Rome fled to other countries to escape his ``justice``. When he died, the population rose up and burned the Holy Office to the ground, set all the prisoners free, then mutilated his statue and dragged it through the city sewers before throwing it into the Tiber river. Or maybe you mean Urban 8 who persecuted Galileo and forced him into a false confession for the heresy of heliocentrism. Or maybe Pius 9, the anti-Semite, who claimed all popes prior and since are divinely infallible. Or perhaps Pius 11, who officially endorsed the Nazi regime in 1933 explicitly because of their anti-Semitism. Or maybe John Paul 2, who was close friends with the incestuous rapist and paedophile Father Maciel. Or maybe Ratizinger who had evidence of it and turned a blind eye? Let me know if you need more examples of your Holy Fathers...

    > it’s utterly unreasonable to expect anyone to answer for every heretical distortion that has come down the pike in two millennia.

    No True Scotsman, amirite? They were all reading the same book, whose contents were decided upon by the Holy Fathers you speak of, along with a track record of whenever possible violently murdering anyone who disagreed with their interpretation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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      No true Scotsman
      No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect an a posteriori claim from a falsifying counterexample by covertly modifying the initial claim. Rather than admitting error or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, the claim is modified into an a priori claim in order to definitionally exclude the undesirable counterexample. The modification is signalled by the use of non-substantive rhetoric such as "true", "pure", "genuine", "authentic", "real", etc. Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an "ad hoc rescue" of a refuted generalization attempt. The following is a simplified rendition of the fallacy: Occurrence The "no true Scotsman" fallacy is committed when the arguer satisfies the following conditions: not publicly retreating from the initial, falsified a posteriori assertion offering a modified assertion that definitionally excludes a targeted unwanted counterexample using rhetoric to signal the modification An appeal to purity is commonly associated with protecting...
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      A Brief Account of the Destruction of the Indies by Bartolomé de las Casas
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