@Chronic-Yonic @GrumpyOldNurse @stephagain One of my old ladies in the nursing home...they all had dementia...used to wipe shit all over the place if she was alone in her room. Her daughters, whom nobody liked awfully much, they were the "naice" kind of people, were adamant that she would not want to be in the main sitting room but in her own room, radio for her etc. We just could not leave her there though, the mess she made was appalling and it wasn't fair on the cleaners. I don't think they were for taking a telling either re just how bad she was and how needed a constant eye kept on her. She at least had an excuse in that her mind had gone.