@AsukaNeko @PopulistRight @HonkHonkBoom indeed, there are things worse than death. Ironically, I think Musk is a good example of that - I think when he son got trans'd, he went out for blood.

But there have been hundreds of attempts to pin trump down using his ego, but I don't think we've seen any successful ones.

His bankruptcies in the early 90s might have been an attempt at control.