@Indigo @xianc78 i think to some extent the deontological thinkers are screwed regardless of affiliation though. consequentialism has spread far and wide, assuming it wasn't always how everyone behaved. perhaps it IS how normies behave since biological stimulus doesn't itself care how the pleasure center gets triggered.

deontologists are worried about things like not approving laws just to go after someone you don't like, because it degrades social and moral fabric. consequentialists only care about needing an excuse to get rid of someone they don't like. similar to the problems of socialism vs capitalism; you can suffer in the hopes somethig might get better or get rich selling everyone down the river. surprising nobody, almost everyone picks #2