@xianc78 @Indigo well science fiction authors lamented the success of star wars, because it marked the end of sci-fi as a "serious" hobby.

sci-fi gave us sturgeons revelation (that >90% of any field is crap), and had a lot of speculative futurism, but since fantasy slop made it to space that's all its known for now and nobody really remembers sci-fi is about trying to predict what society would be like if some major invention was created