@ins0mniak @amerika @p @h4890 @cjd @sj_zero @threalist

>Garbage distros like kali or parrot have a lot of automated tools that people will use and not exactly understand, so it's a point and fire situation. I mean if you can't set up your own box that you're fucking useless.

Can confirm. Kali/Parrot are only useful when you want to check your own setup for some common vulns. The tools included are too noisy in a production environment if you don't know what you are doing. And it's utterly unusable for red team purposes as Metasploit and similar will get instantly flagged by any AV that barely does it's job.

I once had to deal with a security auditor that the management contracted for some penetration testing. Gave him a list of IPs and hostnames to check. Not even 10 minutes later he decided it would be a great idea to launch a port scan on multiple IPs.