@Paleface @BattleDwarfGimli @Hertz @PraxisOfEvil @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro > And if you eliminate usury and all other forms of financial rent-seeking hiding under other esoteric formats by law

then you get rid of most home ownership, business creation, the ability to create things like factories, and so on, and the alternatives to these loans are more complex, involved, and expensive to service and price

the arguments boil down to it being bad because it costs lendees to much, and it is bad a priori

I have already explained that the cost to lendees is fixed by the market, a loan with extra steps would cost the same if not more because people will only loan if they get enough of a return

the claim that it is bad a priori sounds a little hollow when the government is killing millions to spread gay butt sex and child rape around the world and demanding the "right" to mass child sacrifice