@doctorsex @BroDrillard @Omega_Variant @bobbala @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @Forgetful_Gynn @SuperSnekFriend @Will2Power @branman65 You don't remember it because it didn't happen. I'm combining your post with something else I must have read around that time or something I had thought of. Point is, I can sympathize with something of why some of them would have thought Jesus wasn't the Messiah and listened to the Pharisees. I think it's easier in hindsight look at it and go "hah! Those evil fools were just greedy and loved power!" but maybe there was some element of genuine fear of God acting as a stumbling block for a lot of them.