@sun @vriska the primary drivers of trump 1 were disaffected out-ringers who thought a non-politician would make the difference, joined with berners who were hate voting to punish the DNC for disenfranchising them (then hilariously crowing about popular votes, when hillary herself couldn't even win an internal popular vote and had to rig the game with superdelegates)

the driver of biden 1 was ballot stuffing combined with people believing a lot of CIA disinformation (like the "very fine people" stunt, which is immediately disproven by scrolling back ten words where he literally disavowed white supremacy)

i don't really know whats going on currently. the trump energy is long gone. the room has a really big "kill me now please" energy to it.