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@StevenB @samsethi @ericpp @mikeneumann @dave
We added lighting payments as a mechanism to also subvert deplatforming of people from payment rails. Although that has been difficult, we are still hanging in there and evolving as we can. It was not developed as a way to 'make money'.

In my opinion and experience, the only people who can motivate people to support the Value4Value model is the content makers themselves. No app or service has that relationship.