@Owl @bot @Hoss I think gold is a good long term investment. Immediately surviving collapse is important, but whoever comes out of it with money or power will shape the country that emerges from the dust. That's how the Kennedy's got big, land ownership during the depression mixed with organized crime ties. Collapse isn't just getting rid of the old power, it creates an opportunity for new power, and that didn't work out for much of the world before but we need to seize the next opportunity if we want to save our people.