@ankokukishi @HunDriverWidow @nosat @hittitezombie @gorskon @doctorsex @m0rglee @Gab_Refugee @WoodenDoorInspector @jeffcliff @LaylaAlexandrovna That doesn't address my point. Whether it's a virus or not doesn't matter. You scrape a leaf with it, scrape it into a fresh healthy plant, you get more of it. You can repeat this infinite times and create more of it. Scraping a leaf with a sterile needle will not cause the same issue. The isolated compound is either a virus, or something which behaves like a virus- a substance, smaller than a bacteria, that can multiply itself on a specific living host, with a predictable response. You can call it magic for all I care, or claim it's an exosomic excretion from the plant, but that doesn't matter since it still functions like a virus.