@mphjack7 @BowsacNoodle @MartianM00n You're not actually responding to what I'm posting so further discussion is pointless. I applaud you for not engaging in ad homs like your fellow christians but you're engaged in a dishonest form of argumentation where you're nitpicking rather than engaging in the ideas. E.g. I read the part on Heraclius and while he was indeed based the ARTICLE ITSELF, right below the passage that you quoted, mentions how his actions went against christian doctrine on the jews. This was an ERE emperor doing this in the 7th century, so clearly he was not too far removed from pagan Roman virtues, which christianity worked tirelessly to erode and give our countries over to the jews. You must have seen this passage, but dishonestly chose to not include it in your argument in order to create a false image of Heraclius and his actions.