@BowsacNoodle @AAA365a @chris @soc_i_ety Basically the only time people get what they "want" in modern "democracies" is when the people who own all of the means of mass disseminating propaganda have used these means to hoodwink them into thinking that it's somehow good. It almost never has anything to do with their interests and long-term well-being.

It's a shadow oligarchy where ownership of mass media and ability to censor are what rules, not any kind of genuine "let the people see and hear all of the info and arguments and make up their own mind," which is the conceit of these systems. We know this because these very same people who claim democracy is so great will then also argue that censorship is a must because some people and their ideas are "Dangerous For Are Democracy, goyim."